Originally Posted by Reaper16:
I think its fine that you hate the ending.
I also think that my metaphor is getting twisted all around. My clarification that you quoted about the sky appearing blue to everyone with functioning senses was not tied into the movie. That was literally applied to how humans perceive the sky. If our senses are functioning, we see a clear sky as blue. Period.
You are a blathering idiot if you believe because YOU percieve something to be blue...it is. You misdirect in your arguments and you are inanly stupid. Perception, in reality is NOT always actually reality. ART IS SUBJECTIVE you asswipe. And are these people with functioning senses functioning because they agree with YOU? I bet you like rap, don't you?..... [Reply]
Originally Posted by T.B.A.:
You are a blathering idiot if you believe because YOU percieve something to be blue...it is. You misdirect in your arguments and you are inanly stupid. Perception, in reality is NOT always actually reality. ART IS SUBJECTIVE you asswipe. And are these people with functioning senses functioning because they agree with YOU? I bet you like rap, don't you?.....
Originally Posted by T.B.A.:
You are a blathering idiot if you believe because YOU percieve something to be blue...it is. You misdirect in your arguments and you are inanly stupid. Perception, in reality is NOT always actually reality. ART IS SUBJECTIVE you asswipe. And are these people with functioning senses functioning because they agree with YOU? I bet you like rap, don't you?.....
Drop the angle on art for a second. I am not making an overlay to art with what I am about to say: Humans, with senses operating normally, perceive a clear sky to be blue. Can you actually disagree with this?
NOW, bringing art back into it: I was obviously being condescending. But you started discussing epistemology with me, and so I continued my line of reasoning a little bit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by T.B.A.:
You are a blathering idiot if you believe because YOU percieve something to be blue...it is. You misdirect in your arguments and you are inanly stupid. Perception, in reality is NOT always actually reality. ART IS SUBJECTIVE you asswipe. And are these people with functioning senses functioning because they agree with YOU? I bet you like rap, don't you?.....
Originally Posted by J Diddy:
So if I read a book and then I tell you about it, is that art? It's a wildly different medium.
Dude, we are arguing a losing battle. Reaper knows it all. If he says it is.....it is. Sense and sensablity have nothing to do with it. In one statement the movie is art. Yet we are not allowed to perceive it as shit. Because Reaper doesn't believe art is INTERPRETIVE! If he likes it, it is good, if we like it...we are stupid. Damn, I will build an alter to the demi-god that is Reaper!:-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by J Diddy:
So if I read a book and then I tell you about it, is that art? It's a wildly different medium.
No.
I don't see the Cohen's merely "telling" the audience about the novel. I see them making artistic choices all over the place. I see them taking the novel and using as a springboard to comment on the nature of the "suspense/action" film genre and on traditional movie narrative. They did not just give a synopsis of the novel, they used the novel and did something extra with it that was conducive to a film-watching experience. [Reply]
Originally Posted by T.B.A.:
Dude, we are arguing a losing battle. Reaper knows it all. If he says it is.....it is. Sense and sensablity have nothing to do with it. In one statement the movie is art. Yet we are not allowed to perceive it as shit. Because Reaper doesn't believe art is INTERPRETIVE! If he likes it, it is good, if we like it...we are stupid. Damn, I will build an alter to the demi-god that is Reaper!:-)
You are really giving an incorrect assessment of what I have been arguing. [Reply]
I don't see the Cohen's merely "telling" the audience about the novel. I see them making artistic choices all over the place. I see them taking the novel and using as a springboard to comment on the nature of the "suspense/action" film genre and on traditional movie narrative. They did not just give a synopsis of the novel, they used the novel and did something extra with it that was conducive to a film-watching experience.
So if I give an interpretation of the book in the conversation then it would be art?? [Reply]
