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Direckshun 12:06 PM 04-01-2023
All the things you guys are saying about FAU, by the way, you could have been saying about Hali in 2006.

FAU = Tamba
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Chris Meck 01:20 PM 04-01-2023
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
All the things you guys are saying about FAU, by the way, you could have been saying about Hali in 2006.

FAU = Tamba
Oh no.

Felix is a much, MUCH better athlete than Hali ever was. The knock on Hali was that he was a 'try hard', 'high motor' guy but athletically limited.

Felix is a much better athlete.
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kccrow 03:36 PM 04-01-2023
Found this little nugget today on D-Line...

It's from PFF but if you like metric-based analysis, it may or may not confirm your own eyeballs.

A few guys I really like happen to have some solid metrics.

In terms of size to play the position as a 1T DT and combined abilities against the pass and run, Keeanu Benton is as good as it gets.

If you're looking for a well-rounded sleeper as more of a 3T DT, then Kobie Turner is up there. I really thought about him as a pick for the Chiefs in the mock when I took Pickens instead but I just like Pickens snap quickness better. PFF metrics lean hard to Turner though.
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O.city 11:55 AM 04-04-2023
Prisco has Nolan Smith falling to us at 31. I'd love that.
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Chiefnj2 08:15 AM 04-05-2023
Originally Posted by O.city:
Prisco has Nolan Smith falling to us at 31. I'd love that.
Do you think they'd use a first round pick on a DE under 240lbs?
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O.city 08:22 AM 04-05-2023
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
Do you think they'd use a first round pick on a DE under 240lbs?
It would be against their previous DE choices but McDuffie was against that at CB last year so who knows.
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Chiefnj2 10:06 AM 04-05-2023
Originally Posted by O.city:
It would be against their previous DE choices but McDuffie was against that at CB last year so who knows.
What made McDuffie an outlier?
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DJ's left nut 10:10 AM 04-05-2023
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
What made McDuffie an outlier?
Length. Spags is said to prefer taller DBs.

By and large it checks out. Fenton being one of our few recent exceptions.
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Couch-Potato 07:56 PM 04-05-2023
This feels like a really stupid question, but is there a difference between "DE" and "ED"? I noticed some sites designate either or for players, is that just a typo? Interchangeable?
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Urc Burry 08:48 PM 04-05-2023
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
This feels like a really stupid question, but is there a difference between "DE" and "ED"? I noticed some sites designate either or for players, is that just a typo? Interchangeable?
Generally speaking..

DE is exclusively a 4-3 defensive end. Nick Bosa would be labeled a DE

Edge will be a guy who’s more versatile and is a pass rusher who can play end in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4. Like Von or Mack

3-4 DEs are usually going to be found in the DT pool. Because they usually need to be at or around 300 lb

This is how I interpret it at least :-)
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Tribal Warfare 10:16 PM 04-05-2023
Originally Posted by Urc Burry:
Generally speaking..

DE is exclusively a 4-3 defensive end. Nick Bosa would be labeled a DE

Edge will be a guy who’s more versatile and is a pass rusher who can play end in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4. Like Von or Mack

3-4 DEs are usually going to be found in the DT pool. Because they usually need to be at or around 300 lb

This is how I interpret it at least :-)
DE, strictly 4-3

EDGE are tweeners, that are a better fit for a 3-4 alignment
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BossChief 10:47 PM 04-05-2023
Guys I’m hoping fall past 19/20 that we should have a chance at

Van Ness
Jalen Carter
Tyree Wilson
quentin Johnston
JSN
Paris Johnson
Darnell Wright
Bryan Breese
Nolan Smith
Myles Murphy
Anton Harrison
Broderick Jones
Zay Flowers
Jordan Addison
Dawand Jones

That’s 15 guys that doesn’t account for QBs, RBs, CBs, LBers IOL so there should be a good opportunity to have 2-3 of them available even if we sit tight at 31…but moving up in the first for a playmaker would be ideal for this team because 10 rookies aren’t making this roster.
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staylor26 08:56 AM 04-06-2023

Pass Rush Win Rate per PFF in 2022

Nolan Smith: 25.5% ��
Tyree Wilson: 22.3%
Will Anderson: 20.4%
Keion White: 20.1%
Tuli Tuipolotu: 19.1%
BJ Ojulari: 18.9%
Lukas Van Ness: 18.8%
Derick Hall: 17.7%
Will McDonald: 16.8%

— Jordan de Lugo (@jordandelugo) April 3, 2023

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Tribal Warfare 09:07 AM 04-06-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I'll keep repeating that we should take notice and look at the PFF analytics and how it coincides with Veach's draft plans as it did last time.
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Dunerdr 10:13 AM 04-06-2023
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
I'll keep repeating that we should take notice and look at the PFF analytics and how it coincides with Veach's draft plans as it did last time.
I never used PFF much for mocks until you brought this up tbh. Thanks.
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