Originally Posted by penchief:
That's an entirely separate argument that doesn't detract from the Berry question.
That said, Dorsey wasn't perfect but one has to wonder if we'd be better off had we kept Dorsey over Berry. Dorsey has been killing it in Cleveland.
Dorsey hamstrung this team with some really bad contracts. Really isn't that big a deal considering Veach is committing the same sins, I guess. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Dorsey hamstrung this team with some really bad contracts. Really isn't that big a deal considering Veach is committing the same sins, I guess.
Agreed, but even considering his misses/reaches in the draft, the dude has an eye for talent. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Because we can discuss various solutions to the problem such as cutting underperforming players and new players to bring into the system and new defensive coaching staffs and the correlating scheme changes they may implement.
Yeah because there’s so many variations on “fire Sutton, hire Bowles”. You know that’s BS and so do I. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FAX:
I'm not sure I see all that "killing" that Dorsey is doing in Cleveland, actually.
Had to fire his HC and OC, had to bench is starting QB, had to trade or cut key players who were expected to contribute, etc.
He will probably kill it though ... the Browns' cap, that is. Unless the owner wiretaps his office to prevent him from going completely crazy.
FAX
I'm mostly referencing his player personnel moves. He took a lot of criticism for taking Mayfield and Ward over others on the board but it turned out he nailed it. Chubb was another great pick.
I guess I just miss the comfort of knowing that our drafts were going to be good under Dorsey.
Please don't mistake my observations as dislike for Veach. I have high hopes for Veach and believe he will end up a good one. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Dorsey hamstrung this team with some really bad contracts. Really isn't that big a deal considering Veach is committing the same sins, I guess.
That's the nature of today's NFL. Either give them ridiculous contracts or get crucified when they walk. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JakeF:
That should be the cover page for ChiefsPlanet.com
Fantastic post.
Something just isn't right, nobody on the team saying anything means that Berry is doing this to me. The team treated him like a king and he is still pouting. Either that or he's just been waiting for a big payday before quitting on the team all along.
Hindsight, the team should have let Houston and Berry walk and just collected the comp picks. That's 33 million per year of salary cap space plus some decent comp picks.
To be fair to Houston though, if his dumbass DC would have figured out earlier to put him on the line of scrimmage his production would have been much better. Still not worth 20m, but better.
Another strike against Bob Sutton, it took him 3/4 of the season to realize that Houston's bum knee was a liability in open field but he could still be damn good on the line of scrimmage. We'll see if Sutton has the brains to leave him there.
For a guy who told all of us about his cancer, it's interesting that Haglunds is just too personal.
