- Ranked 2nd among charted prospects in success rate vs. man (75%) and press coverage (75.7%) - Led all prospects in success rate vs. zone coverage (88.1%) - He can play inside and outsidehttps://t.co/HbifB61JlJpic.twitter.com/HYsV8rlAzF
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I don’t have actual data or a set of plays in mind, but from watching GB games last year, he just always seemed to miscommunicate with Rodgers whenever he was targeted. That could be because of a bad or hurried throw, but it just happened so often. It just seemed like anything where MVS wasn’t wide open and had a perfectly thrown ball was always going to be incomplete.
We’ll see if that changes now that he’s apparently going to be given more responsibility than he got in GB.
It was just hard to watch any GB game last year and think, “Man Davante Adams is incredible but the rest of those turds kinda suck”
There's no MVS thread I can find so this will have to be where I post these things. I brought up your post in another forum and this is the response I got from a Green Bay fan:
Originally Posted by :
I'm really glad to see someone with the same thoughts on MVS. I'm a Packer fan. Rodgers missed MVS a LOT on his deep routes this year. MVS also had no drops in 2021 - which is the thing I keep seeing people bring up as the biggest knock against him.
I thought MVS improved quite a bit in 2021 and he's consistently a WR I've been targeting in my many best ball drafts thus far.
So at least one fan blames Rodgers, not MVS. You would expect them to be a homer about it too and blame the wide receiver not the golden QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15:
It's going to take a minute for 15 to gel with these guys.
Certainly. But it is already moving significantly faster between Mahomes and MVS than it is with Juju or Skyy which is my only point.
All the people posting that MVS sucks and he isn't going to get more than 400 yards aren't doing the research they're just throwing shit against the wall. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Any particular reasoning behind saying that he “just isn’t good?”
He had a specific role in GB and did it well. IIRC he didn’t have a single drop last year. His speed is basically Hill-level. And he’s still an ascending young player.
What is he so bad at?
He didn't do it well. He was a limited and frustrating WR that only caught 49% of the balls thrown his way. It's why he's not back with them even though they needed all the WR help they could get. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
Certainly. But it is already moving significantly faster between Mahomes and MVS than it is with Juju or Skyy which is my only point.
All the people posting that MVS sucks and he isn't going to get more than 400 yards aren't doing the research they're just throwing shit against the wall.
Are you really basing chemistry off mini camp practices? [Reply]
Are you ever basing your opinion on any topic whatsoever on anything other than what you want to believe? Don't answer I'm not interested in having conversations with you anymore. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
Are you ever basing your opinion on any topic whatsoever on anything other than what you want to believe? Don't answer I'm not interested in having conversations with you anymore.
:-) you're the one talking about mini camp chemistry. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
He didn't do it well. He was a limited and frustrating WR that only caught 49% of the balls thrown his way. It's why he's not back with them even though they needed all the WR help they could get.
If your role is to catch deep balls, your catch rate is going to be much lower than a receiver that is asked to do more. Again, he had zero drops last year.
He’s not there because they didn’t want to/couldn’t pay him what KC is. Same reason Hill isn’t here anymore. [Reply]
Had some interactions this weekend with an NFL media personality who has gone on record saying that he expects the Chiefs WRs to be better without Tyreek Hill.
I asked him if he really believed that. He said, "Nah, but we just need to take positions like that sometimes." [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
He didn't do it well. He was a limited and frustrating WR that only caught 49% of the balls thrown his way. It's why he's not back with them even though they needed all the WR help they could get.
Eesh. That's the stat I was looking for. 49% and no drops? That to me says it's a miscommunication thing or he sucks at tracking the ball. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Eesh. That's the stat I was looking for. 49% and no drops? That to me says it's a miscommunication thing or he sucks at tracking the ball.
He’s also getting the deepest average target in the NFL. This isn’t 49% for a slot guy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
He’s also getting the deepest average target in the NFL. This isn’t 49% for a slot guy.
Not sure what people expect that number to be, given his role.
The best deep ball throwers in the NFL connect on about 40%. Yet we expect a WR who is almost exclusively a deep threat to have catch rate well above 50%? [Reply]
