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Fire Me Boy! 06:46 AM 05-16-2017

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MephistophelesJanx 03:53 PM 09-07-2017
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop:
I feel disappoint lurking.
Indeed.
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unlurking 04:58 PM 09-07-2017
:-)

I will still watch this and hope that as the season progresses they find themselves. So much potential here to be an awesome show.
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Bowser 05:48 PM 09-07-2017
It will be a major curve ball if Discovery ends up being better than Orville......
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Frazod 05:50 PM 09-07-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It's getting hammered by reviewers.

First off, it's supposedly not a comedy, despite the first trailers. It's serious, with "Bro Humor" thrown in as an afterthought. It's basically a homage to Star Trek but it's also a homage to The Twilight Zone (?).

Every review I've read said that the VFX and sets are phenomenal but the show just doesn't know what it wasn't be and that it's very confusing.

We'll know soon enough.
Most of the early episodes of Next Generation were pretty lame as well. Hopefully it'll last long enough to find its legs.
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Deberg_1990 06:40 PM 09-07-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It's getting hammered by reviewers.

First off, it's supposedly not a comedy, despite the first trailers. It's serious, with "Bro Humor" thrown in as an afterthought. It's basically a homage to Star Trek but it's also a homage to The Twilight Zone (?).

Every review I've read said that the VFX and sets are phenomenal but the show just doesn't know what it wasn't be and that it's very confusing.

We'll know soon enough.
This premise was already done by Galaxy Quest to perfection
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unlurking 07:09 PM 09-07-2017
Originally Posted by Modser:
It will be a major curve ball if Discovery ends up being better than Orville......
:-)
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kjwood75nro 02:19 AM 09-08-2017
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
A little McFarland goes a long way. I don't see any way this catches on.

When he can hide behind his animated characters and it's just his voice, the fact that he has the world's most punchable face is forgotten. But that guy would have a smug look on his face if he were getting anally raped by a football team. It's just the way he constantly looks.

I just don't think he works in live-action.
This cannot be said enough.

The only non-animated movie where Seth excels is Ted, and it's only because it's live-action, and you don't see Seth's face.

He was in a kinda-Western, I think, but the only thing I remember is a dead Sheriff being dragged away by wolves while a self-aware Seth monologues while it happens.
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Demonpenz 09:35 AM 09-08-2017
I thought it was cringeworthy, but workable if Mac plays the straight character. When he is the jokester it comes off snobby. Family Guy is on point most of the time tho
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DaneMcCloud 10:19 AM 09-08-2017
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Most of the early episodes of Next Generation were pretty lame as well. Hopefully it'll last long enough to find its legs.
It definitely took a while to find its footing but once it did, it was great.

The interesting thing is that Brannon Braga, who produced ST:TNG and other Star Trek properties, is a producer on The Orville.

Theoretically, this show should have avoided those pitfall, although it look 4 seasons for Enterprise to finally become a quality addition, then it was cancelled.
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DaneMcCloud 10:20 AM 09-08-2017
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
This premise was already done by Galaxy Quest to perfection
Well, it was a little different premise.

That said, the Galaxy Quest TV series is back in production at Amazon.
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Baby Lee 11:55 PM 09-09-2017
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/9/8...eview-lol-what
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alnorth 07:15 PM 09-10-2017
Just saw the first episode. I really don't understand why the critics blasted this show so badly. I mean, its not going to be the greatest show ever made on TV, but its a solid, entertaining show. How the hell did it get 11% on rotten tomatoes?
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sully1983 07:21 PM 09-10-2017
Originally Posted by alnorth:
Just saw the first episode. I really don't understand why the critics blasted this show so badly. I mean, its not going to be the greatest show ever made on TV, but its a solid, entertaining show. How the hell did it get 11% on rotten tomatoes?
Probably because Seth MacFarlane is not that funny and the idea is lame imo. Give me South Park over Family Guy or any of Seth's cringeworthy projects any day of the week please. So glad South Park took shots at Family Guy years ago. Great episode.
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DaneMcCloud 08:11 PM 09-10-2017
Originally Posted by sully1983:
Probably because Seth MacFarlane is not that funny and the idea is lame imo. Give me South Park over Family Guy or any of Seth's cringeworthy projects any day of the week please. So glad South Park took shots at Family Guy years ago. Great episode.
16 years on air but it's "not that good".
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Baby Lee 08:16 PM 09-10-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
16 years on air but it's "not that good".
I won't say it's not good, but it is often lazy. And South Park absolutely pinpointed why.

Many many of their jokes weren't so much jokes as 'hey, remember when this happened. . . .'

'Geez, I'm more nervous than when that pedophile tried to give Arnold ice cream' - cut to 5 minute cartoon re-enactment of an episode of Diff'rent Strokes.

'Geez, I'm more mad when the Duke Boys thwarted Boss Hogg' - cut to 5 minute re-enactment of an episode of Dukes of Hazzard.

Rinse, repeat.

It's not all that different from Talk Soup or Tosh.0 in that regard. More commenting on how weird the rest of TV is, than making new TV.
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