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Fire Me Boy! 07:06 AM 10-04-2016
The Punisher Netflix Series Begins Filming

http://screenrant.com/the-punisher-n...B-P&view=lista

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Netflix and Marvel recently launched Luke Cage, which hit the streaming service just a few days ago, but the collaboration has bigger plans on the horizon. Next year will kick off with the premiere of Iron Fist before all the street-level heroes of New York team up in The Defenders. That means Netflix has a full slate of projects headed its way from the MCU, but it won’t stop there. The service has new seasons of both Daredevil and Jessica Jones coming soon, and it will also welcome perhaps the grittiest of all the heroes to the neighborhood when The Punisher gets his own solo series.

Given the response from the character’s debut in Daredevil season 2, the series has been on the fast track, going from speculation to confirmation in a remarkably short amount of time. And if a new batch of set photos are any indication, it seems that production on the series has officially gotten underway in New York.

More at the link.

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WhiteWhale 10:57 AM 11-24-2017
Meh.

I think it's a bit odd that there's a completely pointless story about an insane terrorist veteran.

It contributes nothing to the plot. IF you eliminated the whole story, only put in the 1 episode it actually tied in with, nothing is lost and I"m less bored.

The whole story with lewis came off as low class bashing of veterans.

ACtually, ALL vets are portrayed badly. They're all broken, evil, or crazy. The one guy who SEEMS to have his shit together is later exposed as morally irredeemable. The one who seems like a good person all through out is, of course, physically maimed.

It distracted from the show, which wasn't as good as it should have been. Bernthal is awesome though. His performance creates the illusion the show was better than it actually was.

Bottom line: This was an 8 episode story stretched to 13 with too many irrelevant side plots.
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BigRedChief 03:33 PM 11-24-2017
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
There are some really dark comic books. Maus for example which has mice, cats, and pigs for characters but is about the authors parents experiences during the holocaust, the suicide of his mother because of her experiences in Auschwitz, and the effect it had on his parents and his relationship with his parents.
geeezzz comic books have changed from when l was a kid.
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BigRedChief 03:43 PM 11-24-2017
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Meh.

I think it's a bit odd that there's a completely pointless story about an insane terrorist veteran.

It contributes nothing to the plot. IF you eliminated the whole story, only put in the 1 episode it actually tied in with, nothing is lost and I"m less bored.

The whole story with lewis came off as low class bashing of veterans.

ACtually, ALL vets are portrayed badly. They're all broken, evil, or crazy. The one guy who SEEMS to have his shit together is later exposed as morally irredeemable. The one who seems like a good person all through out is, of course, physically maimed.
war veterans are almost all screwed up from their experiences. Some are functioning, some are thriving. But, 22 veterans committ suicide every day. Most lost friends and will carry survivor guilt for the rest of their lives.

l think it's a good thing to not gloss over the personal costs of war for the vets when they return to civilized society after war. Most were just wanting to serve their country, they did with honor but now comes the ugly cost of war.
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GloucesterChief 04:28 PM 11-24-2017
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
war veterans are almost all screwed up from their experiences. Some are functioning, some are thriving. But, 22 veterans committ suicide every day. Most lost friends and will carry survivor guilt for the rest of their lives.

l think it's a good thing to not gloss over the personal costs of war for the vets when they return to civilized society after war. Most were just wanting to serve their country, they did with honor but now comes the ugly cost of war.
Yes. One of the worst things you can do to someone is put them in modern combat. I have a dislike for war mongers for that very reason.
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GloucesterChief 04:29 PM 11-24-2017
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
geeezzz comic books have changed from when l was a kid.
It is a very good read, though not something you would want to read again for fun.
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sully1983 10:08 PM 11-27-2017
Kind of baffled at the hate / dislike this got on Rotten Tomatoes . Its only at 61% . For me, this was flat out badass & entertaining as hell. Jon Bernthal kicks so much ass as the Punisher & I thought it had a satisfying ending too. Would highly recommend binge watching it.

On a side note, I didn't particularly like The Defenders (aside from Daredevil). The actor that played the Iron Fist deserves a Razzie cause he sucked so much.
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Tribal Warfare 10:44 PM 11-27-2017
Originally Posted by sully1983:
Kind of baffled at the hate / dislike this got on Rotten Tomatoes . Its only at 61% . For me, this was flat out badass & entertaining as hell. Jon Bernthal kicks so much ass as the Punisher & I thought it had a satisfying ending too. Would highly recommend binge watching it.

On a side note, I didn't particularly like The Defenders (aside from Daredevil). The actor that played the Iron Fist deserves a Razzie cause he sucked so much.
Jon Bernthal like Christopher Reeves casted as Superman was born to play Frank Castle

IMO, the gun control assholes are the antagonists projecting their political beliefs.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/jessica_jones/s01
Jessica Jones


Critic rating 92%

audience 89%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/luke_cage

Luke Cage

Critics 95%

Audience 78 %

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/ma...e_punisher/s01

Punisher


Critics 61%

Audience 94%
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Rausch 08:06 AM 11-28-2017
Originally Posted by sully1983:
Kind of baffled at the hate / dislike this got on Rotten Tomatoes . Its only at 61% . For me, this was flat out badass & entertaining as hell. Jon Bernthal kicks so much ass as the Punisher & I thought it had a satisfying ending too. Would highly recommend binge watching it.
Bernthal was perfectly cast. He manages to perfectly balance the torment of losing his family and the rage it causes.

Since everything has become political people react with knee-jerk speed and then take to the internet. I was even guilty of this for a minute. When the "terrorist" character was introduced I thought "there we go, a cartoon generality of the right." And one episode later they introduced a character that was just the same on the left. To me it didn't feel like South Park just pissing on everyone it was more of a "both you extremes only make things worth" type of statement they were making.

If people hate anything it's being told not only are they wrong but they're making things worse.

Originally Posted by sully1983:
On a side note, I didn't particularly like The Defenders (aside from Daredevil). The actor that played the Iron Fist deserves a Razzie cause he sucked so much.
I was hugely disappointed with Defenders.

If you watch it twice, after the initial glee over seeing them all together wears off, it really wasn't good.

It was very "meh" with moments that were really good...
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Tribal Warfare 08:44 AM 11-28-2017
What would really badass if you have a Punisher kills the marvel universe scenario, with the Defenders as the scapegoat.Micro's family is slaughtered.

It would really be intense if he tortures Luke Cage, being practically invulnerable. Frank and Micro having detailed knowledge how Diamondbacks exploits to retrieve The Judas Bullet to kill Luke
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BigRichard 06:04 AM 12-01-2017
I am getting close to the end of the series and I really love this one. This coming from a guy that was very meh on Dare Devil (until Frank showed up). Hated Luke Cage and Iron Fist and back to a meh on Jessica Jones.

Doesn't feel like a "Super hero movie" and that is a good thing. A lot of cheesy acting and scenes in the other shows but not so much in this one.
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dmahurin 08:21 AM 12-01-2017
So seeing as the the punisher and the daredevil exist in the same universe, and daredevil and the teenage mutant ninja turtles were mutated from the same slime at the same time, what are the odds that Frank and Micro's hideout is an old TMNT hideout. All the old computers, hidden lair, etc. Even the van they drive around in looks like it is a modern turtle van. I'm calling a TMNT cameo in either daredevil or the punisher in the next few seasons.
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BigRichard 10:52 AM 12-01-2017
Originally Posted by dmahurin:
So seeing as the the punisher and the daredevil exist in the same universe, and daredevil and the teenage mutant ninja turtles were mutated from the same slime at the same time, what are the odds that Frank and Micro's hideout is an old TMNT hideout. All the old computers, hidden lair, etc. Even the van they drive around in looks like it is a modern turtle van. I'm calling a TMNT cameo in either daredevil or the punisher in the next few seasons.
It would be interesting but I highly doubt it.
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Tribal Warfare 11:07 AM 12-01-2017
Originally Posted by dmahurin:
So seeing as the the punisher and the daredevil exist in the same universe, and daredevil and the teenage mutant ninja turtles were mutated from the same slime at the same time,
Isn't that a fan fiction theory that has never been confirmed by Marvel?
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dmahurin 11:20 AM 12-01-2017
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Isn't that a fan fiction theory that has never been confirmed by Marvel?




the story of both. The TMNT one is from the first issue.
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Jamie 01:07 PM 12-01-2017
I liked it okay in and of itself, but I'm a little disappointed I'll probably never see my preferred take on the Punisher. Basically I think Punisher works the best when he's not really the main character, or at least not the character that the emotional thread of the story runs through. To me what was human in Punisher died with his family, and what's left is like the monster in a horror movie, except he kills people that deserve it.

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Isn't that a fan fiction theory that has never been confirmed by Marvel?
It's not canon or anything, but that was the intent in the TMNT story (as posted above). It's more of an easter egg, or a wink-and-nod to the fact that TMNT was a pseudo-parody of what was popular in comics at that time: ninjas (Daredevil) and teenage mutants (X-Men/New Mutants).
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