Overall prospects or left tackles?

He would likely be still a top 10 grade in this draft. Hard to account for a QB heavy top of the draft, but I think he would still be if not the top tackle he would be in the top 3.
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I think he'd be in the mix with Fautanu as OT3.

That said - let's not forget that he went ahead of Lane Johnson and frankly was seen by most sources as a better prospect than Johnson.

If someone said "Hey, where would Lane Johnson go in this draft" we'd probably all say "eh, probably behind Alt but maybe ahead of Fashanu...."

And yet - consensus had Fisher as a better prospect than Johnson at the time.

It was a piss poor draft year. But I don't think we want to undersell Fisher because of it. In a lot of ways he profiles very similar athletically to Fashanu. He was raw, but as far as pure tools went, there was very little he didn't have. Long, athletic, powerful base. Typically a smart player but quality of competition left that an open question.

This wasn't a Tyson Jackson situation where we took a guy 3 who probably wouldn't have been a first rounder most years. Fish was a pretty outstanding prospect.
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I'm old enough to remember just how dominant Fisher was at Senior Bowl week.

Oh and BTW, Luke Joeckel :-)
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Fisher I'd have as OT 2 behind Alt. Fisher is a guy that has always been grossly underrated around here despite how good he was because people had it stuck in their heads how poorly he played at RT as a rookie. They also forget how good of an LT prospect he was coming out. He's more athletic than anyone but less polished than Alt.

While I'm on the LT subject I'll say, Fashanu may not be OT2 in this draft. Fautanu has a strong argument to be that guy and I'm not convinced he won't be when teams make their picks. Fautanu is a more polished player, and he's more athletic. The only thing Fashanu has on Fautanu is 2" of height.
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DAY 1 TACKLE PROSPECTS
Tier 1 (Top LT Prospects)
1. Alt
2. Latham
3. Fashanu
4. ERIC FISHER FALLS HERE

Tier 2 (Top RT prospects, questions as to if they can play LT)
5. Fuaga
6. Guyton

Tier 3 (This is where the fun starts, and in no particular order)
7. Mims - looks like a prototypical tackle, but only started 8 of 30 games. Is a team really going to invest a first round pick on such limited actual playing time? Can a team afford to burn a first round pick on someone so raw?

8. Suamataia - another developmental guy that looks the part. Can't even legally buy a beer yet. Same as Mims, can a team afford to take a LT in the first round when you know the player is going to have to realistically sit a year to learn and then take his lumps in year 2?

9. Blake Fisher - I like him a lot more than most. Very good right tackle, and I think he has enough athleticism to switch to left.

10. Morgan - More experienced than some others in this group, looks versatile but supposedly has bad hands.

11. Paul - I think he has 40+ starts at LT, but his criticism is a lack of power that shows in the run game. (I've seen him ranked equally with Morgan and other sites have him as a day 3 guy. I have no idea, but assume his experience at LT will push him up a little).
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I think this is a fair review of Mims.

https://youtu.be/3yc6ZWC__Mo?si=kyDEWpEND1fXP4ho
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Someone help me out here with Patrick Paul. Would he not be an option? I’ve seen him mocked all over the place. Some 1st rd, some mid 2nd, some late 2nd.

Guy has elite size. 6’7.5” 330 lbs. 36 1/4(!!!) arms and 9 3/8 hands.

Really nice athleticism and 3 years experience who is a plus pass rusher but not as good in the run game.

Seems like someone Andy would be in on. So what’s missing? Is he not as good of a prospect or something?
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I think he is arguably a better prospect than Morris or Niang were, I just think 32 would be a reach for him. At 64 if you decided to go for a WR at 32 or BPA that fell to you, then I wouldn't be terribly upset to see Paul in the 2nd as our choice. He is one of those that has values rated for end of the 1st down to the 3rd round, so best to be totally sold him if you pick him at 32.
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I haven't remotely watched the tackles yet, but to play devil's advocate: substitute Andrus Peat in your post.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/andrus...c-3fdcb6ed04c1
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Take a look at Patrick Paul in the image below. See how long his legs are and how short his torso is? He’s leggy and that doesn’t typically make for great OTs. He won’t have great leverage or power because he’s at such a disadvantage with his leverage. His arm length is great but if you look at Amarius Mims, his ceiling is so much higher to me than Paul’s. Mims is built solid and is not leggy. Mims is built proportionately. Paul will have trouble with power rushers and speed rushers who can get low like Derrick Thomas used to coming around the edge.


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Thanks fellas. Every mock I’m seeing has Jordan Morgan right around our range. Feels like this is the year to go for a LT
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Dane Brugler said on the Athletic pod that he thinks 6 tackles could be taken in the top 25. Wow

Also said this is the best year to go after a LT bc there are guys who have that upside which is rare. Named Guyton, Morgan and Suamataia as 3 guys who could absolutely play LT and teams are looking at them at LT and RT.
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Patrick Paul?

OT prospects in “true pass sets” during college. These are pass block reps after removing <2 sec time to throws, <4 rushers, screens/play action, etc. pic.twitter.com/brESKZoW9i

— Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) March 29, 2024

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I'd like Paul with our 2nd
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All this chart really shows me is that it isn't the best predictor of success.
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