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Hall of Classics>****The Official Save Our Chiefs Movement Thread****
pr_capone 12:49 PM 10-01-2012


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This team is just plain awful. The only consistently good play on offense comes from Bowe and Charles. Daboll is, I'm sure a great person, but an awful offensive coordinator. While I understand that trying to lead this team is "like trying to drive a car with 4 flat tires"... it is incomprehensible to me how he can misuse the little talent that he does have. Romeo was the right man for the job regarding Belcher. He is still not the guy to coach this team into playoff contention and a Super Bowl.

*****. I hope the rumors of the Titans being interested are true. I hope you did get your walking papers on your recent trip to Dallas. I cannot wait for you to be gone from Kansas City. You took an ailing team and smothered it Cassel, ineffective FA, and bad picks in the draft. Statistically... you are the worst thing to ever happen to Kansas City Chiefs football. I will be thrilled when your termination is announced.

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There is still an unresolved issue with the donation from sports nutz and both parties are working to resolve it as quickly as possible. Because I cannot afford to pay for a 2 hour flight by myself... we are only planning on flying a single banner. Effectively, we only have $960ish in the bank until the matter is resolved.

If the funds come available in time for the banner to fly, we will fly a second banner as well.

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the Talking Can 12:27 PM 12-18-2012
are we there yet?
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dirk digler 12:31 PM 12-18-2012
Originally Posted by patteeu:
I don't agree at all. CEOs with what you're calling "absolute power" run large organizations all over our country. It's the standard organizational model. IMO, it's a lot better to have one person in charge than it is to expect two to work together without one being able to have the final say. Ideally, the person in charge will be good at accepting input and forming consensus within the leadership of the organization but someone has to make the final decision. It can be the GM or the HC, but someone has to be the final say unless the owner is willing to referee disagreements.

I don't know who it was that said that Carl and Marty were peers, but that wasn't the case. Carl was the boss for most of their time together. Marty was reportedly given greater control over personnel at the end, but it's not clear to me what the arrangement was and it certainly didn't improve the product on the field.
Yep. Carl had pretty much total power and the way Clark wants to run the team he is going to hire another GM and give them total power. I honestly don't see that changing.
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dirk digler 12:33 PM 12-18-2012
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think that has a little more to do with who's taking the snap, than who's giving it.
Somewhat.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
Albert, Hudson, Asamoah and Winston are all excellent pass blockers.

Stephenson, Allen, and Lilja have not been this year, and weren't Sunday.
I will take your word for it.
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htismaqe 12:37 PM 12-18-2012
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I think what you are wanting is a GM who will let the coach coach.
I want a GM who is going to allow the coach to have SIGNIFICANT input into personnel decisions and actually consider that input when it comes to player acquisition.
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Buehler445 12:46 PM 12-18-2012
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I want a GM who is going to allow the coach to have SIGNIFICANT input into personnel decisions and actually consider that input when it comes to player acquisition.
Right. And if a GM doesn't do that, he's a bad GM. That doesn't necessarily mean Clark should force the GM and coach to structurally be peers. The GM can still have "absolute power" as you say, meaning he makes the decisions and is actually the boss over the coach. If he disregards what the coach says, he's a shit GM.

Look at it this way. Pioli is a shit GM. If Clark came in and structurally changed things to where they were peers, he'd still be a shit GM. The problem is we have a shit GM, not because the structure is bad.
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Hammock Parties 12:46 PM 12-18-2012
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Somewhat.



I will take your word for it.
Dude, just watch any of the games before Hudson got hurt.

This line has been fine for two years from a pass blocking standpoint outside guys like Richardson, and Lilja/Wiegmann getting raped by Oakland.

The QBs make them look at a lot worse.
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DeezNutz 01:39 PM 12-18-2012
We must go HC first because we cannot allow a dipshit GM to force talent that isn't good enough or doesn't fit a system onto the coaching the staff.
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Buehler445 01:45 PM 12-18-2012
Originally Posted by DeezNutz:
We must go HC first because we cannot allow a dipshit GM to force talent that isn't good enough or doesn't fit a system onto the coaching the staff.
In my eyes, the key remains to hire a good GM. If he does all the things you're suggesting, he's a shit GM. He wil continue to make shit GM personnel decisions that will hurt the team. We need to avoid getting a shit GM. And let the Non-shit GM go find a good coach.
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O.city 11:11 PM 12-18-2012
I'm starting to think it's gonna be a fairly big name guy, Clark will have to pay, but I think he wants to win 1a but bring the fans back in full force 1b.
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Titty Meat 01:35 AM 12-19-2012
Yeah it's going to be Bill Polian. LaCanFora is hardly ever wrong.
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mdchiefsfan 04:00 AM 12-19-2012
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
Dude, just watch any of the games before Hudson got hurt.

This line has been fine for two years from a pass blocking standpoint outside guys like Richardson, and Lilja/Wiegmann getting raped by Oakland.

The QBs make them look at a lot worse.
I haven't read this whole thread so I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but even Winston made mention of how much harder Cassel made it for the tackles by not stepping up in the pocket.
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AussieChiefsFan 04:49 AM 12-19-2012
Some people will probably be wearing back off their own merit this sunday, but is the Blackout officially continuing?
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ILChief 06:14 AM 12-19-2012
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini:
Yeah it's going to be Bill Polian. LaCanFora is hardly ever wrong.
I just hope he wouldn't hire Jim Caldwell as coach
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007 06:16 AM 12-19-2012
I want to see another GM whose last name starts with a P about as much as I want to see another USC QB.
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mdchiefsfan 06:42 AM 12-19-2012
Originally Posted by Guru:
I want to see another GM whose last name starts with a P about as much as I want to see another USC QB.
:-)
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