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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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MahomesMagic 06:32 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
LOL. First, an article isn't proof of anything. Second, you're back to copying CDC tricks by using a timeframe in which the vast majority were unvaccinated. Third, you're still lumping people who have had not one...but TWO...shots in with "unvaccinated."

Nice try, compadre, but this is getting stale.
Let's not forget the CDC claimed they only had 10,000 "breakthrough" cases and 1 week later Bloomberg showed they had not reported 100,000.

Not to be trusted.

And even today, where is the national data?

UK and Israel can post monthly data but the CDC with thousands of employees can only do childish propaganda that works on old dopes like Donger?

Where is the US data? What are they hiding?
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MahomesMagic 06:47 PM 10-22-2021
Once you get on the ride, you don't get off...


Citizens “need to get used to being vaccinated with COVID vaccines for the future… it will be a regular cycle of vaccination and revaccination.” - Australia’s New South Wales Ministry of Health Dr. Kerry Chant. pic.twitter.com/nnHr0AZfNu

— 'Sikh For Truth'. (@SikhForTruth) October 20, 2021


Your body will now be property of the state and your employer.
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Donger 06:48 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
You have been nothing but a Xi apologist.

The lockdowns were his idea.

You also advocated for US to close while China stay open.

Your ideas are pro China garbage.
Was Xi the man behind the lockdowns that the United States implemented during the Spanish Flu, too?

Idiot.
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Donger 06:50 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
LOL. First, an article isn't proof of anything. Second, you're back to copying CDC tricks by using a timeframe in which the vast majority were unvaccinated. Third, you're still lumping people who have had not one...but TWO...shots in with "unvaccinated."

Nice try, compadre, but this is getting stale.
Of course you say that. The CDC is FAKE NEWS!!

:-)

And on the third, of course I'm not. Neither is the CDC:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...min-rate-total
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MahomesMagic 06:51 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Was Xi the man behind the lockdowns that the United States implemented during the Spanish Flu, too?

Idiot.
There were not lockdowns during the Spanish Flu you retard.

They did have some idiots that wore masks but that is because they didn't have the knowledge we have now.

Since then we have built an impressive database of what works and what doesn't and prior to your Lord Xi's commands no one recommended locking down healthy people.
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Donger 06:55 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
There were not lockdowns during the Spanish Flu you retard.

They did have some idiots that wore masks but that is because they didn't have the knowledge we have now.

Since then we have built an impressive database of what works and what doesn't and prior to your Lord Xi's commands no one recommended locking down healthy people.
Actually, there were, you ignorant turd:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...flu-pandemic#3

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...h-flu-pandemic
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MahomesMagic 06:57 PM 10-22-2021
Lockdowns,” the mass quarantine of both sick and healthy people, have never before been used for disease mitigation in the modern Western world. Previously, the strategy had been systematically ruled out by the pandemic plans of the World Health Organization (WHO) and by health experts of every developed nation. So how did we get here?

Mass lockdowns of entire countries as a technique for fighting disease sprung into the world’s consciousness on the order of Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), who fomented a global propaganda offensive targeting Western governments and media. Within weeks, the WHO, an organization that once devoted itself to fighting disease and which has sadly become a tool of Chinese foreign policy, promulgated lockdowns into global policy through a series of press conferences that showed a complete absence of analysis or logic.

The world has been fighting a virus from China with a public health policy from China that transforms the world into China. But if the national security community has noticed this bizarre development, they haven’t said so. Instead, their preoccupation has remained largely unchanged since February 2020. Insiders have confirmed that by spring 2020 the national security community was convinced that SARS-CoV-2 was a supervirus leaked from the Wuhan lab, explaining why many supported lockdowns. Yet the key pieces of information that gave rise to the lab leak theory were the videos of Wuhan residents suddenly falling dead, the contrived tale of heroic whistleblower Li Wenliang, and Xi Jinping’s apparent success locking down Wuhan, the city with the lab in it.

One national security official after another has claimed to know the virus came from the Wuhan lab, even as the underlying intelligence information has changed little. If these officials are as confident as they claim to be, great !It does not change the fact that Covid’s average infection fatality rate (IFR) across all age groups is under 0.24%. It’s long past time to address the more concerning question to which the rest of the public has long since moved on: why governments across the world have copied and continue to copy China’s anti-democratic, totalitarian measures in response to COVID-19.

One by one, governments of the world imported China’s totalitarian lockdown measures. Neil Ferguson, whose series of alarmist, wildly inaccurate models fueled lockdowns around the world, recalled how China’s example had inspired him:


I think people’s sense of what is possible in terms of control changed quite dramatically between January and March … It’s a communist one-party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought … And then Italy did it. And we realised we could … If China had not done it, the year would have been very different.

In the U.K. Government’s official Coronavirus Action Plan from March 3, 2020, discussing social distancing, school closures, and rapid COVID test and vaccine development, nearly every source the U.K. government cited was from China. All the measures outlined in New Zealand’s official COVID-19 Elimination Strategy document—“physical distancing” “widespread testing” “surveillance”—were adopted from China based on the reported success of the CCP’s Wuhan lockdown. The New Zealand Department of Health deleted this document from their website one day after it received widespread attention on Twitter, after having been posted there for over a year.

In Germany, the federal government commissioned a confidential strategy paper “based on the scientific findings of expert teams from the University of Bonn/University of Nottingham Ningbo China” containing a “catalog of measures” to be implemented by Germany’s CDC, later obtained upon FOIA request by Germany’s independent Corona Committee. The strategy paper outlined, in detail, the steps to implement lockdowns, mass testing, and quarantine facilities, among other draconian measures. The paper specifically suggested “appeals to the public spirit” including two words that would soon become a worldwide propaganda slogan during the COVID-19 crisis: “together apart.”

Of the 210 pages of FOIAed emails that led to the publication of the German strategy paper, 118 pages were blacked out entirely. The emails contain frequent discussion of China, but nearly all of these references are redacted. The stated reason: “May have adverse effects on international relations.”

One after another, world leaders tipped over like dominoes, their national bureaucracies falling in line to cease all social and economic activity for the first time in history. In March 2020, the Dutch government commissioned a cost-benefit analysis concluding that the health damage from lockdown would be six times greater than the benefit. The government then ignored it, claiming “society would not accept” the optics of an elderly person unable to get an ICU bed. The Dutch government knowingly took a course of action that would cause health damage—let alone economic damage—six times worse for the Dutch people, out of a concern for optics.

Based on WHO guidance, citing Chinese journal articles, doctors around the world began putting patients on ventilators en masse, killing thousands before a grassroots campaign stopped the practice. Based on the WHO’s guidance on COVID-19 testing, again citing Chinese journal articles, labs used, and continue to use, PCR cycle thresholds from 37 to 40, and sometimes as high as 45. At these cycle threshold levels, approximately 85% to 90% of cases are false positives, as confirmed by The New York Times.

The WHO’s PCR guidance was paired with new international ICD-10 codes for COVID deaths to make COVID-19 quite possibly the deadliest accounting fraud of all time. According to this coding guidance, if a decedent had either tested positive or been in contact with anyone who had, within several weeks prior to their death, then the death should be classified as a COVID-19 death. The result was a terrifying number of supposed “COVID-19 deaths” that bore little relation to the number of “excess deaths” in a given year, even in states and countries that employed few lockdown measures. This absurd number of “COVID-19 deaths” has been used to rationalize any manner of devastation caused by governments’ response to COVID-19—from bankruptcies and mental health crises to deaths from lockdowns themselves.

What’s transpired since has been a predictable spiral into the abyss, aided and abetted at virtually every stage by a media apparatus that has perpetuated the fraudulent lockdown narrative. The Chinese government has financial stakes in almost every top media outlet and friends in corporations, universities, and governments. Preexisting financial relationships with China led institutions to trust information from China, endorse the CCP’s narrative, and ultimately advocate for the global adoption of the CCP’s policies. Owing to this combination of naivete, groupthink, and outright corruption, scientists and journalists have been incorporating information from China into their work as true, when in fact nearly every bit of information that has come from China with regard to the virus has been a lie.

Articles from March 10, 2020, illustrate how media outlets adopted China’s narrative in unison. “How China Slowed Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Surveillance, Enforcers,” reported The Wall Street Journal. “Those containment efforts do appear to have been successful, with the number of new cases slowing to a trickle in recent weeks,” CNN admired. “Xi asserts victory on first trip to Wuhan since outbreak … China’s epidemic statistics suggest that its efforts have been effective,” trumpeted The Washington Post. “The World Health Organization has praised Beijing’s response … ‘This epidemic can be pushed back,’ Dr. Tedros said, ‘but only with a collective, coordinated and comprehensive approach that engages the entire machinery of government,’” The New York Times repeated.

For journalists, indulging the fiction that China controlled the virus appears to have begun as a little white lie—a little something in exchange for all those goodwill seminars and ad placements. It was silly, of course, but what harm could that do?

The snowball effect of this little white lie, that China had controlled the virus, was soon apparent in journalists’ own writing. One after another, they fell victim to their own collective propaganda. Global media outlets legitimized a ludicrous narrative in which the CCP’s two-month lockdown of Wuhan had eliminated domestic cases from all of China, but not before the virus had spread everywhere outside China, where governments now had no choice but to adopt the CCP’s lockdown policies. Within months, they’d begun to sound like foaming-at-the-mouth communists, their every word dripping with illiberalism as they implored the world to emulate China.

“The U.S. has absolutely no control over the coronavirus. China is on top of the tiniest risks,” The Washington Post gushed.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/n...ball-cowardice
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MahomesMagic 07:00 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Actually, there were, you ignorant turd:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...flu-pandemic#3

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...h-flu-pandemic
Wow, you are dumber than I thought. You think a US national strategy can be crafted around hiding from a contagious respiratory virus?

What childish fantasy.

Of course again, China who promoted this propaganda that you bought didn't hide themselves.
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RaidersOftheCellar 07:00 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Let's not forget the CDC claimed they only had 10,000 "breakthrough" cases and 1 week later Bloomberg showed they had not reported 100,000.

Not to be trusted.

And even today, where is the national data?

UK and Israel can post monthly data but the CDC with thousands of employees can only do childish propaganda that works on old dopes like Donger?

Where is the US data? What are they hiding?
They’re manipulating and hiding whatever possible. Including a ton of VAERS death reports.

But these silly conspiracy theories don’t fly with a shrewd investigator like Donger. He only buys into baffling mysteries, against-all-odds coincidences, and full government transparency.
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MahomesMagic 07:04 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
They’re manipulating and hiding whatever possible. Including a ton of VAERS death reports.

But these silly conspiracy theories don’t fly with a shrewd investigator like Donger. He only buys into baffling mysteries, against-all-odds coincidences, and full government transparency.
Remember Jacob Clynick?

13 year old dies and CDC said they would investigate?

Well?

Where is the report? That was almost 5 months ago.

But let's jab 28 million kids fast..right.

Michigan boy dies 3 days after getting Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, CDC is investigating
Kristen Jordan Shamus
Detroit Free Press
https://www.freep.com/story/news/202...ne/5323095001/
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RaidersOftheCellar 07:18 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Of course you say that. The CDC is FAKE NEWS!!

:-)

And on the third, of course I'm not. Neither is the CDC:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...min-rate-total
Yes, the CDC’s “pandemic of the unvaccinated” narrative was/is horribly bogus and disingenuous. They inadvertently outed themselves by revealing their methods.

And yes, the article you posted earlier had two categories: fully vaccinated and unvaccinated. As usual.
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RaidersOftheCellar 07:20 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Remember Jacob Clynick?

13 year old dies and CDC said they would investigate?

Well?

Where is the report? That was almost 5 months ago.

But let's jab 28 million kids fast..right.

Michigan boy dies 3 days after getting Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, CDC is investigating
Kristen Jordan Shamus
Detroit Free Press
https://www.freep.com/story/news/202...ne/5323095001/
3 days after his second dose?

Unvaccinated death!
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MahomesMagic 07:22 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Yes, the CDC’s “pandemic of the unvaccinated” narrative was/is horribly bogus and disingenuous. They inadvertently outed themselves by revealing their methods.

And yes, the article you posted earlier had two categories: fully vaccinated and unvaccinated. As usual.
They would have us believe that vaccinated are 82% of the dying in the UK, 65 to 70 percent in Israel, and 87 percent in Scotland but in the US its 1 percent?!

Obvious liars.
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MahomesMagic 07:24 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
3 days after his second dose?

Unvaccinated death!
Well, luckily this one doesn't count as COVID.

They did have a 16 year old that looks like he died from vaccine they called a COVID death. Heart problems, called his mom after the shot and died.
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RaidersOftheCellar 07:42 PM 10-22-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
They would have us believe that vaccinated are 82% of the dying in the UK, 65 to 70 percent in Israel, and 87 percent in Scotland but in the US its 1 percent?!

Obvious liars.
They said it so it has to be true!

-Donger (aka the curious one)
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