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So, anyone buying the whole theory that Bran caused Aerys' madness by warging into him from the future, where Meera's yelling to burn the White Walkers gets leaked into the Mad King's head a la "HOLD THE DOOR" into Wyllis' mind?
So, anyone buying the whole theory that Bran caused Aerys' madness by warging into him from the future, where Meera's yelling to burn the White Walkers gets leaked into the Mad King's head a la "HOLD THE DOOR" into Wyllis' mind?
Spoiler!
I understood Bran needing to warg into a person that was right near him in order to escape, but I can find no reason for Bran needing to warg into the Mad King for any reason.
So, anyone buying the whole theory that Bran caused Aerys' madness by warging into him from the future, where Meera's yelling to burn the White Walkers gets leaked into the Mad King's head a la "HOLD THE DOOR" into Wyllis' mind?
Not sure why you have this in spoilers, but...
Spoiler!
...no, I don't buy that theory at all.
For one thing, Bran already saw it happen in his visions now as the mad king yelling to burn them all" was featured in his visions at the begining of last night's episode. It would be weird to show that in the manner they did if Bran was going to have that major an impact on the scene.
But more to the point, that theory ignores the fact that the Mad King spent a long time before that scene takes place having all the wildfire made and then placed all around the city. Given that pre-planning, acting like there had to be some other influence causing him to say "burn them all" really doesn't make any sense, he was clearly all along planning to burn them all.
Lastly, I don't think Bran will be warging any more people after what happened to Hodor.
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
They could have combined the ending of this episode and added it to the ending of the episode where she kills the khals. Would have helped explain further why they supported her so quickly.
The whole Jamie/Cersi/Tommen dynamic is just wildly off the rails in my opinion. Season 4 Jamie/Cersi would tell their kid what to do, they would lie to him if his wife was such a concern, but they would enforce their will.
My hope is that Jamie meets up with Brianne who tells him what is really going on and how the Starks need his army (along with the Blackfish's men) and they all lay waste to the Stark's enemies and prepare for the walkers. Because right now both Jamie and Cersi are completely unnecceary characters doing things that are out of character.
I was thinking about how likeable Cersei has become compared to the beginning. Probably has to do with her losing her 2 Kids and Father, and just feeling empathy. Granted, she brought a lot of that on to herself.
Onto Dany...If she ends up being the Queen of the 7 Kingdoms, it will feel a little disappointing. It's like she's been waiting off to the side and letting everyone else kill each other, and then she's going to swoop in with her gigantic army and take over. She has been through a lot, but it doesn't feel like a good story. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buck:
I was thinking about how likeable Cersei has become compared to the beginning. Probably has to do with her losing her 2 Kids and Father, and just feeling empathy. Granted, she brought a lot of that on to herself.
Onto Dany...If she ends up being the Queen of the 7 Kingdoms, it will feel a little disappointing. It's like she's been waiting off to the side and letting everyone else kill each other, and then she's going to swoop in with her gigantic army and take over. She has been through a lot, but it doesn't feel like a good story.
As far as the books go, I'd still take the white walker bet. I don't know what the line is, but I'd take it. Why? Martin.
Dany would about have to die in battle or her dragons be killed by winter. The show has gone to great lengths to have every corner of the realm talk about how impossible a task it was to beat the dragons. Great John Umber said it when they declared Robb King. Tywin talked about it and Herrenhall. Robert Barratheon talked about it several times. And virtually everyone has mentioned that dragons are no more. Something else would have to happen to have Dany be defeated. Something red wedding style. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buck:
Onto Dany...If she ends up being the Queen of the 7 Kingdoms, it will feel a little disappointing. It's like she's been waiting off to the side and letting everyone else kill each other, and then she's going to swoop in with her gigantic army and take over. She has been through a lot, but it doesn't feel like a good story.
What do you feel about Euron sweeping away all Yara's and Theon's travails at Kingsmoot? [Reply]
For some reason this episode bored me. I fast forwarded through most of Fat Sam's dinner scene and Dany's ridiculous speech. The same speech she's given ten times in one form or another. All I can think when she talks is that though most men would fuck her very few would follow her. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
I thought Sam's scene was pretty good. Gilly looked fucking good.
Yeah she did!
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
That dinner scene was great, I agree. Randall Tarly is a hard ass.
I really thought Sam would stand up to him at dinner but he's still a worthless fatshit. Taking Heartsbane was a bold move though.
I thought the whole Sam scene was pretty good. I could have done without the initial scene with his mom and sister other than the actress playing Gilly did a great job of being like, "woah".
As far as the dinner I couldn't think of how to do it any better. Gillys speech was great. Randall was great. The younger son did a good job of what he would be like in that situation.
Sam couldn't unload both barrels at his father because Gilly and Sam would be fucked and he couldn't do that. But when he decided fuck it I'm out, there is no way you can look at stealing Heartsbane and think, "fatshit." That is ballsy as fuck. [Reply]
