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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

Site
Pro Football Network

Draft slot: 29

The picks
1.31 | TRADE with Jacksonville for 2.40 and 2.75. (Another trade happened at 96 but I fotget the exact details on it now)
2.40Drake Jackson, DE, USC. Jackson is a versatile edge defender who can play effectively anywhere from 260-275 pounds. He's explosive and quick and diverse, and he would pump much-needed youth and pass rush ability into the Chiefs DE unit.

2.61 | Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada. At least on this site, this pick is a solid spot to try to address WR. I switch it up and try to shamelessly make kccrow happy by taking someone he turned me on to. Has size, speed, can stack DBs down the field, and has had success working in the slot or on the outside.

3.75 | Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State. I double-down on DE in this mock, and land a super athletic DE from a program that has been churning out athletic freaks. With Ebiketie and Jackson, my DE room is now younger and dynamic and has a pair of potentially studly bookends.

4.99 | Chad Muma, LB, Wyoming. If you're still pining about Logan Wilson, you'll like this pick. Muma's profile is very similar to Wilson's - he projects as a 3-down LB who fills downhill well. Use him as a SAM. Use him as a WILL. Hell, you can probably use him in the middle if you want.

4.131 | Tyler Smith, OT, Tulsa. Smith's stock is starting to rise and he hasn't officially declared, but if he has, this would be an awesome set up. Smith is large and athletic enough to be a quality swing tackle and good starter at RT with some development time.

5.157 | Tariq Castro-Fields, CB, Penn State. Castro-Fields is a good-enough athlete with really long arms - would be a nice outside corner fit for the Chiefs and, with his length, would be a nice asset to deal with 9 routes to big receivers.

7.232 | Bubba Bolden, S, Miami. I think his ranking is way, way off on this site. But if he's there in real life, I would rush to podium and add a nice SS/third safety prospect. Would fit nicely in the role Sorenson has been filling.

7.249 | Peyton Hendershot, TE, Indiana. This seems like a safe spot to roll the dice on a really talented player with some off-field questions, if you get through interviews and assume he's solid. Could be an absolute steal if he keeps his nose clean.

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mkp785 12:08 AM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Iím interested in Williams and/or Metchie shares. Especially since I expect them to sign a free agent WR who can handle #2 duties.
Yeah. That's what I thinking too. Draft Williams and redshirt this year while signing some ring chasing vet or someone who fell off and needs a "prove it" year. Then in 2023 bring in Williams to start make things happen. That'd be perfect as by that time Kelce will be getting older-and Reek may or may not have gotten slower, so another pass catcher will be much needed.

Bonus is that Bama seems to crank out awesome WRs (Julio, Cooper, Smith, Waddle). So Williams def has a great pedigree and should know his stuff. He's expected to regain his 4.3ish speed to after the surgery too.
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Chris Meck 07:58 AM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Updated the OP with my new mock.

I end up with two DEs, at least one of which should be able to play heavy snap counts Year 1, and who give me youth and productivity at low cost (hopefully) moving forwards. Love that. Really love that.

I add a larger playmaker at WR, who is versatile and can make RAC plays happen. I like it. Still would need a vet in FA to feel good about WR entering 2023.

I get a starter-caliber LB, and a really promising development swing tackle. Very happy with those.

Not happy with the DB additions. Though I like both guys I land and would cream my pants at adding Bolden in the 7th, I would like to add a S I'm more comfortable sliding into a key role. Guess I'd be trying to make a FA addition to replace Mathieu (or retaining him) in this scenario.

I really like the Hendershot... shot. The Chiefs have extra 7ths and those are perfect fits to throw at someone like him. Talented, with questions. Very little risk (and likely a pick that is roster fodder, anyway).

Love that mock.

I think we need to see what we have with the TE's that we developed this year; Fortson looked like a weapon and Gray has been playing quite a bit if not being targeted all that much.
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DJ's left nut 10:20 AM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by mkp785:
Yeah. That's what I thinking too. Draft Williams and redshirt this year while signing some ring chasing vet or someone who fell off and needs a "prove it" year. Then in 2023 bring in Williams to start make things happen. That'd be perfect as by that time Kelce will be getting older-and Reek may or may not have gotten slower, so another pass catcher will be much needed.

Bonus is that Bama seems to crank out awesome WRs (Julio, Cooper, Smith, Waddle). So Williams def has a great pedigree and should know his stuff. He's expected to regain his 4.3ish speed to after the surgery too.
Williams has some strength/frame issues that are a bit worrisome as a long-term #1, but as a #2 here they shouldn't be as pronounced.

I just worry that he's not going to be the sort of physical WR we could really use over the middle. He's a little more like DeVonte Smith in that he's a little on the slighter side.
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The Franchise 10:25 AM 01-12-2022
How high does Jerome Ford, RB go in the draft? 3rd round?
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DJ's left nut 10:31 AM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
How high does Jerome Ford, RB go in the draft? 3rd round?
Could sneak into the late 2nd.

Love the speed and agility but wonder if he will be a good enough pass-blocker/receiver to earn much run here.

I'd consider him with a late 3rd but I'm betting when the pick comes I'll like someone better. In reality I'd probably struggle to grab him before the 4th.
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The Franchise 10:34 AM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Could sneak into the late 2nd.

Love the speed and agility but wonder if he will be a good enough pass-blocker/receiver to earn much run here.

I'd consider him with a late 3rd but I'm betting when the pick comes I'll like someone better. In reality I'd probably struggle to grab him before the 4th.
Yeah, I figured the pass-blocking would do him in.

I have a feeling that we're not grabbing a RB in this draft anyways.
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duncan_idaho 10:49 AM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Love that mock.

I think we need to see what we have with the TE's that we developed this year; Fortson looked like a weapon and Gray has been playing quite a bit if not being targeted all that much.
Yeah, I wouldn't spend more than a 7th on a TE in this draft. Hendershot was just a calculated risk at that point.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Williams has some strength/frame issues that are a bit worrisome as a long-term #1, but as a #2 here they shouldn't be as pronounced.

I just worry that he's not going to be the sort of physical WR we could really use over the middle. He's a little more like DeVonte Smith in that he's a little on the slighter side.
Yeah, he's not the ideal "missing piece" fit (I actually think that's someone like Drake London) for KC, but he's so talented it would be worth a shot if you think you can backfill the WR2 role for all of 2023 with a FA or something.

That's what I like about Doubs. He's a bigger, more physical presence, but he has deep speed, can work inside or outside, and he has RAC skills.
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mkp785 12:00 PM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Williams has some strength/frame issues that are a bit worrisome as a long-term #1, but as a #2 here they shouldn't be as pronounced.

I just worry that he's not going to be the sort of physical WR we could really use over the middle. He's a little more like DeVonte Smith in that he's a little on the slighter side.
True, he's slight but in this situation he'd have a full season under an NFL weight training program and guys dedicated to increasing his mass while still retaining that speed.

Wasn't he projected to be the 1st WR off the board? If so, that's a great chance for us to steal him. Similar to how we got Justin Houston all those years ago (tho he fell cause of weed).
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DJ's left nut 03:02 PM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by mkp785:
True, he's slight but in this situation he'd have a full season under an NFL weight training program and guys dedicated to increasing his mass while still retaining that speed.

Wasn't he projected to be the 1st WR off the board? If so, that's a great chance for us to steal him. Similar to how we got Justin Houston all those years ago (tho he fell cause of weed).
Banking on a WR who's so depending on speed/explosion recovering that speed/explosion is a pretty iffy gamble.

Set aside the fact that you're realistically getting him for 3 years instead of 4 (nobody comes back at 100% in year 1 and if you're not 100% in this league, you're probably not very good), there's a genuine risk that he just goes the Sydney Jones route and never gets all the way back at all.

Granted, Jones was an Achilles vs. an ACL and the history with ACL's is better, but there are still the Phillip Gaines stories as well.

Some guys just don't bounce back and if Williams doesn't, he's barely even rosterable at that point. He's not a guy with size/physicality to fall back on if his explosion doesn't come all the way back.
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TambaBerry 06:35 PM 01-12-2022
The good thing is I think it's finally my turn to draft for the Chiefs. Need to start looking at the prospects
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kccrow 08:40 PM 01-12-2022
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
1.25 WR Jameson Williams, Alabama -- Andy Reid loves having the pure speedster WR, and Hardman has fallen out of favor. Williams fits the bill.

2.47. CB Roger McCreary, Auburn -- An extremely scheme-flexible corner to help compensate for the loss of Charvarious Ward, which I think is imminent.

3.85. DE Cam Thomas, San Diego State -- I'm assuming the Chiefs retain Ingram and make a push for Von Miller. The Chiefs need an infusion of talent at DE this offseason, and Thomas has starter upside starting in 2023.

4.120. S Markquese Bell, Florida A&M -- Keeping Mathieu really is a cheat code; all that matters to me, so long as we have him on the roster, is will a new DB be able to make plays. Bell has issues in coverage and in reading plays, but those are correctable with great coaching and leadership. Bell can serve as a good 3rd safety; maybe a starter if Mathieu walks.

[made random pick in the 6th as we do not have a 6th]

7.225. LB Quay Walker, Georgia
-- strongside LB prospect
7.241. CB Storm Duck, North Carolina -- his name tho
I'm rethinking my comment on Cam Thomas earlier in this thread. I really like the kid. He reminds me a bunch of Maxx Crosby. Cam might be better as a prospect and I wouldn't doubt he has a chance to go round 1.

I've been toying with:
1. ER Cameron Thomas, San Diego State
2. DB Jalen Pitre, Baylor
3. WR Khalil Shakir, Boise State

If the Chiefs get an extra 3rd for EB, I'd go Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
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mkp785 03:26 AM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Banking on a WR who's so depending on speed/explosion recovering that speed/explosion is a pretty iffy gamble.

Set aside the fact that you're realistically getting him for 3 years instead of 4 (nobody comes back at 100% in year 1 and if you're not 100% in this league, you're probably not very good), there's a genuine risk that he just goes the Sydney Jones route and never gets all the way back at all.

Granted, Jones was an Achilles vs. an ACL and the history with ACL's is better, but there are still the Phillip Gaines stories as well.

Some guys just don't bounce back and if Williams doesn't, he's barely even rosterable at that point. He's not a guy with size/physicality to fall back on if his explosion doesn't come all the way back.
Well, we'd obviously have our DRs check him and give us thumbs up/down but if they says it's a go then that's a hard out imo. That's position of need with a guy who has exactly what we look for in our WRs. Bonus being he comes from a school that recently has been as good as any in the country at producing WRs.

Plus, if we're (crossing fingers) drafting at 32, then it's not like guys like Kyle Hamilton or Aidan Hutchinson will be our vincinity to fill our other major needs. We could afford to roll the dice if there's no sure fire AP guy there-which usually is the case that late.
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Chris Meck 05:42 AM 01-13-2022
Man, if we get the two extra 3rds for EB and Poles this year AND next, that could seriously go a LONG way to not having to do a tear down and eat it cap year if we draft wisely.
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duncan_idaho 08:39 AM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Man, if we get the two extra 3rds for EB and Poles this year AND next, that could seriously go a LONG way to not having to do a tear down and eat it cap year if we draft wisely.
We'd spend at least one of them trading up, IMO.

I'll run a mock this afternoon and pretend I have two comp picks at the end of the third and see what happens with it. Should be fun.

I don't think they'll tear down/eat it any time soon. Will keep pushing that and hope that cap escalation lets you catch up.
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duncan_idaho 12:18 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
We'd spend at least one of them trading up, IMO.

I'll run a mock this afternoon and pretend I have two comp picks at the end of the third and see what happens with it. Should be fun.

I don't think they'll tear down/eat it any time soon. Will keep pushing that and hope that cap escalation lets you catch up.
So, I ran that mock.

Here's what I ended up with:

2.43, 2.63 (trade back with Atlanta for 1.31 and a 7th), 2.61, 3.93, 3.103, 3.104 (projected comp picks for Bienemy and Poles), 4.131, 7.232

Using PFN, I landed, in order:
Travon Walker, DE (i think he plays strongside LE and moves inside on passing downs for KC, think Arik Armstead but more athletic)
Sam Williams, DE
Romeo Doubs, WR
Rasheed Walker, OT (Or the Tulsa kid if you like him more)
RB (Tyler Allgeier, Jerome Ford, Zonovan Knight)
Demani Richardson or Smoke Monday, S
John Metchie (take the risk on him and redshirt him ... can afford it with the extra picks)
Mike Rose, LB

Those extra picks will be handy. It makes redshirting one of Metchie or Williams a lot more do-able.
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