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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>911 was an inside job.
Taco John 12:06 AM 02-09-2006
After watching this, I am once and for all convinced that it was an inside job...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81991288263801


The evidence is way too strong.
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Donger 11:18 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Radar Chief:
Heh, I didn’t know that. I assumed it was ‘cause of RFI interference with the gauges in the cockpit. :-)
That's one of the other reasons, yes. And more so RFI and fly-by-wire aircraft.
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mlyonsd 11:24 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Brock:
Here's some of those facts you seem to not want to acknowledge, Metro.
Caught an intersting show on Nova a couple years back that came to this same conclusion. It said the fire retardent that was blown onto the stuctural steel was never tested for a sudden impact. They proved in testing an impact would dislodge a lot of the fire retardent insulation, thus making is vulnerable to a fire that would burn as hot as jet fuel.

Quite interesting.
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Pants 11:25 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by redbrian:
How do you know it was a fireman?
There was a footage of him on 9/11 in his uniform doing his job.
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Pants 11:33 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Donger:
Did you look at the Popular Mechanics link? If so, what did you think?
I liked it. It pretty much convinced me back to the way I was before watching the video. So I'm back to 80/20 of thinking your way. It doesn't really explain everything I wanted to know, mainly the pentagon part. They have a guy quoted saying he saw the remains of the bodies, he picked them up, he found the black box, etc. For all I know, it's bullshit, what I saw with my eyes on pictures and videos was completely different. As a matter of fact, the video had quotes who's authors changed them within a week after 9/11.

I read all the info you provided, now I just want you to watch the video when you have time. I understand how you'll react (hell even I thought a few things were blatantly lacking explantions/reason) but just bear through it and listen to sounbytes, interviews, etc.
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Saulbadguy 11:36 AM 02-09-2006
I think the most important question is...

If it were an inside job, what the hell for??
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journeyscarab 11:38 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Metrolike:
I liked it. It pretty much convinced me back to the way I was before watching the video. So I'm back to 80/20 of thinking your way. It doesn't really explain everything I wanted to know, mainly the pentagon part. They have a guy quoted saying he saw the remains of the bodies, he picked them up, he found the black box, etc. For all I know, it's bullshit, what I saw with my eyes on pictures and videos was completely different. As a matter of fact, the video had quotes who's authors changed them within a week after 9/11.

I read all the info you provided, now I just want you to watch the video when you have time. I understand how you'll react (hell even I thought a few things were blatantly lacking explantions/reason) but just bear through it and listen to sounbytes, interviews, etc.
Check out The History Channel some time. They created a computer simulation of how the plane would react and the building responded to the impact. There is plenty of evidence out there to prove the nut jobs wrong.

I hate to see people get sucked into conspiracy theories. 9/11 was painful and unbelievable just in the act itself. Adding conspiracies to it insults the memories of those who died and their families and intelligence of the rest of us who have to pick up the pieces and stop another 9/11 from happening again.
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Pants 11:40 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
I think the most important question is...

If it were an inside job, what the hell for??
Haliburton and co. got some nice contracts as a result. Bush got mad aproval ratings. Other reason.
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Eleazar 11:42 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by journeyscarab:
Check out The History Channel some time. They created a computer simulation of how the plane would react and the building responded to the impact. There is plenty of evidence out there to prove the nut jobs wrong.

I hate to see people get sucked into conspiracy theories. 9/11 was painful and unbelievable just in the act itself. Adding conspiracies to it insults the memories of those who died and their families and intelligence of the rest of us who have to pick up the pieces and stop another 9/11 from happening again.
I saw that, if it's the show I'm thinking of. With the demolitions engineers who said that there was no way to knock a building of that size on its side with any kind of projectile? and the demonstration of foam being dislodged from the girders (or whatever you call them)?

It was a neat show, very well done and professional.
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Taco John 11:42 AM 02-09-2006
The video is working again... If you've got 15 minutes, watch it from 45 minutes to 1:00:00
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Pants 11:42 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by journeyscarab:
I hate to see people get sucked into conspiracy theories. 9/11 was painful and unbelievable just in the act itself. Adding conspiracies to it insults the memories of those who died and their families and intelligence of the rest of us who have to pick up the pieces and stop another 9/11 from happening again.
I don't think it's insulting to 9/11 families to try and see things from all perspectives. I try to keep an open mind to anything, and not just dismiss things because they're "ridiculous".
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Mr. Kotter 11:43 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
I think the most important question is...

If it were an inside job, what the hell for??
And it's that simple question that makes this whole thing so patently ridiculous: would the US government actually allow something like this to happen? You have to be insane, or disingenuious, to really believe this. It's pretty scary to me, that some will allow their ideological hatred and vitriol to blind them to any semblance of common sense.

I think it's pretty clear to any reasonable person that the costs of this "conspiracy" would far, far outweigh any possible "gain" from it.

We've reached new heights of "Moonbat" for some with this.... :-)
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Eleazar 11:43 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Metrolike:
Haliburton and co. got some nice contracts as a result. Bush got mad aproval ratings. Other reason.
My first emotion toward people who think that this was all orchestrated by Bush so that he could invade Iraq and slide Haliburton a few extra bucks is pity.
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Eleazar 11:45 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter:
And it's that simple question that makes this whole thing so patently ridiculous: would the US government actually allow something like this to happen. It's pretty scarey to me, that some will allow their ideological hatred and vitriol to blind them to any semblence of common sense.
Keeping a plot liked that secret, despite the number of people who would have to be involved and keep quiet about something morally reprehensible, requires a suspension of disbelief that I'm not even close to capable of.
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Mr. Kotter 11:45 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Cochise:
My first emotion toward people who think that this was all orchestrated ....is pity.
Yup. :-)

What was the Thatcher quote? Something about the type of people who will believe those who have the worst intentions in mind for America, yet they doubt and assail those who sacrifice and serve us? I can't remember it exactly...
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Taco John 11:46 AM 02-09-2006
I don't want your pity. I want explainations.


You can shove pity up your ass.
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