Finally watched last night, missed Sunday obvious reasons.
This is ridiculous. We're 6 episodes in and quite literally NOTHING has happened. Well, nothing of consequence.
Lloyd and Walker fighting. OK. Big Deal.
John banging the annoying protester chick, which is not even believable. Beth telling her she hopes she dies of ass cancer did make me laugh though.
Jimmy in Texas. OK. Big deal.
Monica's annoying ass is now happy that they are moving away from the Ranch. OK. Big Deal.
Jamie's real dad story line...OK. Whatever. Big Deal.
Jamie and Beth, Beth hates Jamie, did you know that? Well, we reminded you this weekend. OK. Big Deal.
This show sucks this season. You could literally skip everything so far and not have missed anything interesting. [Reply]
Look, I like Will Patton as much as the next guy, but what the fuck kind of wizard Svengali am I supposed to think this hayseed ex-convict is? The guy's suddenly a manipulative criminal mastermind and yet for a decade after his release he did nothing to try to find his son? This kid he says he intends to kill one of the most powerful families in the country for?
And I get that we've been conditioned to see Jaime as mentally soft, but literally 2 minutes before he pulls a gun on him with seething rage and some half-assed speech (that wasn't even all that convincing) is going to turn him into a sobbing mess?
The entire season has felt like filler to me. I don't understand their plan at all right now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The Jamie's dad thing is just god-awful.
Look, I like Will Patton as much as the next guy, but what the **** kind of wizard Svengali am I supposed to think this hayseed ex-convict is? The guy's suddenly a manipulative criminal mastermind and yet for a decade after his release he did nothing to try to find his son? This kid he says he intends to kill one of the most powerful families in the country for?
And I get that we've been conditioned to see Jaime as mentally soft, but literally 2 minutes before he pulls a gun on him with seething rage and some half-assed speech (that wasn't even all that convincing) is going to turn him into a sobbing mess?
The entire season has felt like filler to me. I don't understand their plan at all right now.
Lazy writing for sure. It's all just filler. [Reply]
In my own opinion, they do overdramatize Beth as a character. I understand the intention for having a female badass character on the show, especially around these male characters and the surroundings, but her behavior is getting pretty annoying.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by NEOM:
In my own opinion, they do overdramatize Beth as a character. I understand the intention for having a female badass character on the show, especially around these male characters and the surroundings, but her behavior is getting pretty annoying..
She's the antithesis of Jamie, but they're so much alike especially getting approval from John, and Beth lashes out because of that need to get praise from John [Reply]
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
She's the antithesis of Jamie, but they're so much alike especially getting approval from John, and Beth lashes out because of that need to get praise from John
The problem is that she's being overexposed.
How much shit-talking can she do before she just becomes a dog yapping on a porch.
If they need 10 minutes of air-time filled, they just create some random conflict where Beth cusses a few times and makes mean squinty eyes at someone.
If they need another 10 minutes, Tyler Sheridan hops on a horse and they do some stuff. And that's after they put in 15 minutes of worthless Jimmy garbage.
Don't get me wrong, the whole exchange with Piper Perabo was pretty funny, but you're just burning more Beth capital without meaningfully advancing the plot. And at a point, you kinda get immune to Beth cussing and snarling.
Oh, and can we just kill Monica AND Tate at this point? Casey, Beth and Rip are too important to the plot to ace one of them. Nobody else is likely to put John on tilt.
So kill off Monica and Tate to drive some action. It's not like they add anything to the story anyway. Anything that needs a kid involved going forward can just use that Carter kid. He's more interesting than Tate and nobody can possibly be more irritating than Monica. "Oh yeah, she's teaching college again. Awesome! I hope she gets pissy looking and scolds Casey more for attempting to provide his family a life that's beyond most people's wildest dreams!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The problem is that she's being overexposed.
How much shit-talking can she do before she just becomes a dog yapping on a porch.
If they need 10 minutes of air-time filled, they just create some random conflict where Beth cusses a few times and makes mean squinty eyes at someone.
If they need another 10 minutes, Tyler Sheridan hops on a horse and they do some stuff. And that's after they put in 15 minutes of worthless Jimmy garbage.
Don't get me wrong, the whole exchange with Piper Perabo was pretty funny, but you're just burning more Beth capital without meaningfully advancing the plot. And at a point, you kinda get immune to Beth cussing and snarling.
Oh, and can we just kill Monica AND Tate at this point? Casey, Beth and Rip are too important to the plot to ace one of them. Nobody else is likely to put John on tilt.
So kill off Monica and Tate to drive some action. It's not like they add anything to the story anyway. Anything that needs a kid involved going forward can just use that Carter kid. He's more interesting than Tate and nobody can possibly be more irritating than Monica. "Oh yeah, she's teaching college again. Awesome! I hope she gets pissy looking and scolds Casey more for attempting to provide his family a life that's beyond most people's wildest dreams!"
You have it backwards. Casey didn’t want to go back. She wanted to stay. And it’s all his fault. Sounds like my sister. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
You have it backwards. Casey didn’t want to go back. She wanted to stay. And it’s all his fault. Sounds like my sister.
Casey left to appease her.
When John told him he needs to think of a plan to get her back, he said "I think I have one but it will be hard for both of us..." and then told her he thought they should move off the ranch.
That whole "I told you not to come here - this place is evil!" "This place isn't evil, the people trying to take it from us are evil" exchange in the 2nd episode made it clear she wanted out and never really wanted to live there to begin with.
If you just start from the premise that Monica sucks and work backwards from there, things fall into place. [Reply]
Last year Costner was hinting he wanted to step way back on this series. The writers at the end of season 4 were kinda the write him off the bandwagon as they were not confident they would have him much for season 5. Then boom his movie pretty much bombs and he is back on board. So the season 5 opening episode and now they all survive and are struggling to write scripts on the go now. That's how I see it any way they didn't have enough commitment from Costner and are having to scramble now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by srvy:
Last year Costner was hinting he wanted to step way back on this series. The writers at the end of season 4 were kinda the write him off the bandwagon as they were not confident they would have him much for season 5. Then boom his movie pretty much bombs and he is back on board. So the season 5 opening episode and now they all survive and are struggling to write scripts on the go now. That's how I see it any way they didn't have enough commitment from Costner and are having to scramble now.
Yeah, season 4 felt to me like they didn't know who they'd have back and didn't figure they'd end up with everyone returning. So they wrote themselves an out.
With everyone coming back, the stakes weren't raised at all and they didn't seem to know where to go from there.
So like I said, time to kill Monica and Tate. Win/win! [Reply]
Speaking of Costner and being pussywhipped: I was flipping around TV the other night and the MLB Network was showing a movie with Costner Called "For the Love of the Game." It's a baseball movie, but not really. He plays a 40 year old pitcher throwing his last game in Yankee Stadium and he throws a perfect game. But the whole time he's thinking about this chick that constantly shat on him. Just an awful movie. Just awful.