Unfortunately when your team wins a lot that happens. A lot of them weren't around for Matt Cassel or wanna chat you up about Priest Holmes or some shit like that.
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I was talking to some bandwagon fans a d they accused of being one myself and I said I have been a fan since the late 80s DT/Okoye etc and even though they were my age they had no clue they were .I’m still not wearing my LJ jersey just for the cred though.
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Be like, bro ya'll remember Dale Carter and James Hasty lockin it down?

They're like who?
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I was accused of that once too. I had to admit it was true. I jumped on the bandwagon in 1968 or so.
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The most amusing part to me is that the Kelce bros talked about it on the podcast, and the fact that Patrick flopped a bit was a foregone conclusion - they didn't even question that he did it.

What I don't understand is why any of you take such offense to the accusation. Burrow flopped on his attempt at drawing a RTP foul. QBs do it all the time. You don't want to be egregious or whiney about it, but I don't have any issue with a QB making it clear that there was a foul. That's just how it works in today's NFL.
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I think the problem is with the term "flop." It seems to imply that he wasn't really hit and that he just took a dive when the guy touched him. He was clearly hit hard enough to knock him down and Patrick's "flop" was merely throwing his arms out at the end to sell the penalty.
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Oh yeah, I’m not calling out chiefs fans. Of course bandwagoning comes with the territory of winning. But with bengals fans this is most of their fan base. Even when we were bad the city still bled red and filled stadiums.
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This

We need to make the distinction between selling the call and flopping. Mahomes was going to spill hard no matter what. The dramatic arms out was selling the call. A flop implies that the guy breathed on mahomes and mahomes fell over to the ground like a fish.
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Exactly. Being upset at accusations he flopped are silly. Regardless of whether he did or not are irrelevant as it was still a penalty. You also hit the nail on the head that QBs do it all the time and quite frankly it's a smart move if they can get the call.
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Let me tell ya about Dayton, Ohio...
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The offense doesn't come from the flop accusation itself.

They are saying the he flopped because it WASN'T a penalty and they're saying the Chiefs won because of it - they're accusing Patrick Mahomes of CHEATING.
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According to Bengals fans, several other fanbases, and the national media, it was NOT a penalty. That is the problem.
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What about Joe Delaney? I remember reading about him in the paper when i was growing up and couldn't believe an NFL player could die like that, being in the prime of their life with so much talent.
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That's simply not true. I've been a fan since 1978 and i can tell you that there's always been a large, devoted fan base. I have no doubt that there are thousands of bandwagon jumpers that don't know Icky Woods from Tiger Woods but there's a difference between being a team that's just bad for a period of time and being a team with the most inept, archaic, unchanging owner in the history of sports with no hope of things ever changing.

When Mike Brown took over for his father, he spent the next 20 years turning this franchise into the laughing stock of the NFL and didn't even bat an eyelash about it. He stuck to his guns like there was a band of angry, raping maurauders at his door step. When he hired Marvin Lewis and finally let go of his grip on the team just a little, the fan base responded to the team getting better, but then he kept Marvin around way too long. Literally, every decision he's ever made on his own, he turned gold into a pile of shit. The only reason things are changing now is because his granddaughters have become involved in things and his daughter isn't quite like daddy when it comes to knowing how to make a successful franchise. Hell, they didn't even get a RoH until last year because MB thought it was silly and they didn't have an indoor practice facility until half way through this year.

As soon as Burrow and Zac came on board, fans that had been standing in the shadows, still having that desire to support a winner, came back.

When you start winning consistently, passive 'don't-cares' will come along as well and they're usually the ones that make the most noise when things go bad.
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But why would anyone here get upset about that? It's not even debatable that he had TWO feed out of bounds and was shoved from behind. The strength of the shove is irrelevant to the rule, as is whether Mahomes made it look worse than it was. It was absolutely, 100% a foul.

I just don't see the point in getting upset about people who are just plain wrong and refuse to acknowledge it. There's no room for debate with people who aren't even trying to be objective.

Again, I just feel like some people here (cough...pete...cough) actively search out things to get upset about. Life's too short to get into arguments about people who aren't debating in good faith.
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