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Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Salvy should have bunted?

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Witt was the batter. Yes, he should have bunted. With his speed, you might even end up with runners at 1st and 3rd and no outs.
If Salvy was leading off, then yes to him also. He can handle it.
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Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
Witt was the batter. Yes, he should have bunted. With his speed, you might even end up with runners at 1st and 3rd and no outs.
If Salvy was leading off, then yes to him also. He can handle it.

Witt almost got an extra base hit but a great play saved that run. Runners at 1st & 2nd with Salvy at bat. A bunt probably was the play. Pasquantino would have driven in Melendez from 3rd.

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I really hope he comes back next season.

A few Greinke stories from The Athletic:

Spoiler!

Collin Snider, pitcher: We’re in Texas and a couple of guys were playing cards before the game. They were talking about guys collecting stuff. (Dylan) Coleman asked if Greinke collects anything cool. And he was just like: “Got a bunch of houses.”

Nicky Lopez: I was on the bench with him and we were facing someone who really liked cats. I was like: “You can’t trust anyone who likes cats.” He goes: “Yeah, man, you really can’t.” I go: “I like dogs. You got any, Zack?” He goes: “Nah, I would never get dogs. I’ve got a cat, though.”

Jonathan Heasley, pitcher: The first time we all felt comfortable was in spring training. He invited all the starters to his house one night, and we all grabbed dinner and hung out over there. That was when we kinda broke the ice. When we first got there, at his house, we were hitting some chip shots. He’s got a little green in his backyard. We’re hitting some balls back there. He asked us if we were hungry. We’re like, “Yeah, a little.” It was pretty early. He’s like, “Well, I just ordered some chicken, but that’s for me. So if you guys want to order something later, we can figure something out.” We’re all just looking around like, “Alright! Sounds good!” And it was awesome. Hung out. Sat around and talked baseball, life.

Brad Keller, pitcher: I was like, “I’m not getting righties out as well as I want to. I feel like I’ve been getting lefties out more.” That night, he went home and I get a text message at like 2 a.m. He’s sending me all the data points. He’s like, “This is what I saw. These are the things I gather.” Out of the blue.

Michael Massey: When I was younger, I would watch him on TV. I’m like, “This guy is incredible, future Hall of Famer, I wonder what he does to get ready before a start.” Flash forward. Now I’m his teammate and I’m warming up in the weight room. He comes in with his big, baggy shirt on. He sits down on the ground, pretzel style. Literally crisscross applesauce. He’s just sitting there for a minute. He pulls a banana out of his pocket and starts eating a banana crisscross applesauce on the weight room floor. He drops the banana peel, stands up with a baseball, walks over to the wall and starts slowly throwing a ball off the wall and catching it. I walked out and was like: “So that’s what a Hall of Fame pitcher does before he starts, huh?”

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
I really hope he comes back next season.

A few Greinke stories from The Athletic:

Spoiler!

Collin Snider, pitcher: We’re in Texas and a couple of guys were playing cards before the game. They were talking about guys collecting stuff. (Dylan) Coleman asked if Greinke collects anything cool. And he was just like: “Got a bunch of houses.”

Nicky Lopez: I was on the bench with him and we were facing someone who really liked cats. I was like: “You can’t trust anyone who likes cats.” He goes: “Yeah, man, you really can’t.” I go: “I like dogs. You got any, Zack?” He goes: “Nah, I would never get dogs. I’ve got a cat, though.”

Jonathan Heasley, pitcher: The first time we all felt comfortable was in spring training. He invited all the starters to his house one night, and we all grabbed dinner and hung out over there. That was when we kinda broke the ice. When we first got there, at his house, we were hitting some chip shots. He’s got a little green in his backyard. We’re hitting some balls back there. He asked us if we were hungry. We’re like, “Yeah, a little.” It was pretty early. He’s like, “Well, I just ordered some chicken, but that’s for me. So if you guys want to order something later, we can figure something out.” We’re all just looking around like, “Alright! Sounds good!” And it was awesome. Hung out. Sat around and talked baseball, life.

Brad Keller, pitcher: I was like, “I’m not getting righties out as well as I want to. I feel like I’ve been getting lefties out more.” That night, he went home and I get a text message at like 2 a.m. He’s sending me all the data points. He’s like, “This is what I saw. These are the things I gather.” Out of the blue.

Michael Massey: When I was younger, I would watch him on TV. I’m like, “This guy is incredible, future Hall of Famer, I wonder what he does to get ready before a start.” Flash forward. Now I’m his teammate and I’m warming up in the weight room. He comes in with his big, baggy shirt on. He sits down on the ground, pretzel style. Literally crisscross applesauce. He’s just sitting there for a minute. He pulls a banana out of his pocket and starts eating a banana crisscross applesauce on the weight room floor. He drops the banana peel, stands up with a baseball, walks over to the wall and starts slowly throwing a ball off the wall and catching it. I walked out and was like: “So that’s what a Hall of Fame pitcher does before he starts, huh?”

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:-) I love it! Especially the cat conversation.
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
I really hope he comes back next season.

A few Greinke stories from The Athletic:

Spoiler!

Collin Snider, pitcher: We’re in Texas and a couple of guys were playing cards before the game. They were talking about guys collecting stuff. (Dylan) Coleman asked if Greinke collects anything cool. And he was just like: “Got a bunch of houses.”

Nicky Lopez: I was on the bench with him and we were facing someone who really liked cats. I was like: “You can’t trust anyone who likes cats.” He goes: “Yeah, man, you really can’t.” I go: “I like dogs. You got any, Zack?” He goes: “Nah, I would never get dogs. I’ve got a cat, though.”

Jonathan Heasley, pitcher: The first time we all felt comfortable was in spring training. He invited all the starters to his house one night, and we all grabbed dinner and hung out over there. That was when we kinda broke the ice. When we first got there, at his house, we were hitting some chip shots. He’s got a little green in his backyard. We’re hitting some balls back there. He asked us if we were hungry. We’re like, “Yeah, a little.” It was pretty early. He’s like, “Well, I just ordered some chicken, but that’s for me. So if you guys want to order something later, we can figure something out.” We’re all just looking around like, “Alright! Sounds good!” And it was awesome. Hung out. Sat around and talked baseball, life.

Brad Keller, pitcher: I was like, “I’m not getting righties out as well as I want to. I feel like I’ve been getting lefties out more.” That night, he went home and I get a text message at like 2 a.m. He’s sending me all the data points. He’s like, “This is what I saw. These are the things I gather.” Out of the blue.

Michael Massey: When I was younger, I would watch him on TV. I’m like, “This guy is incredible, future Hall of Famer, I wonder what he does to get ready before a start.” Flash forward. Now I’m his teammate and I’m warming up in the weight room. He comes in with his big, baggy shirt on. He sits down on the ground, pretzel style. Literally crisscross applesauce. He’s just sitting there for a minute. He pulls a banana out of his pocket and starts eating a banana crisscross applesauce on the weight room floor. He drops the banana peel, stands up with a baseball, walks over to the wall and starts slowly throwing a ball off the wall and catching it. I walked out and was like: “So that’s what a Hall of Fame pitcher does before he starts, huh?”

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Probably my all time favorite Royal
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Re: extra innings, it’s all about the situation and who is up for you and them.

If I’ve got an ace reliever available who gets Ks, I play for the run at second. If I’ve got the bottom of the lineup up, I play for the run at second.

If the middle of the opposing team’s lineup is up and there’s someone I have trouble getting out in there (or multiple someone’s) you may let guys swing away to play for more than a run.

If I don’t have an ace reliever available or the middle of my lineup is up against a non ace reliever, I let my guys swing away.

There are a few automatic bunt situations, but more goes into it than just it being the 10th inning or later.
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
I really hope he comes back next season.

A few Greinke stories from The Athletic:

Spoiler!

Collin Snider, pitcher: We’re in Texas and a couple of guys were playing cards before the game. They were talking about guys collecting stuff. (Dylan) Coleman asked if Greinke collects anything cool. And he was just like: “Got a bunch of houses.”

Nicky Lopez: I was on the bench with him and we were facing someone who really liked cats. I was like: “You can’t trust anyone who likes cats.” He goes: “Yeah, man, you really can’t.” I go: “I like dogs. You got any, Zack?” He goes: “Nah, I would never get dogs. I’ve got a cat, though.”

Jonathan Heasley, pitcher: The first time we all felt comfortable was in spring training. He invited all the starters to his house one night, and we all grabbed dinner and hung out over there. That was when we kinda broke the ice. When we first got there, at his house, we were hitting some chip shots. He’s got a little green in his backyard. We’re hitting some balls back there. He asked us if we were hungry. We’re like, “Yeah, a little.” It was pretty early. He’s like, “Well, I just ordered some chicken, but that’s for me. So if you guys want to order something later, we can figure something out.” We’re all just looking around like, “Alright! Sounds good!” And it was awesome. Hung out. Sat around and talked baseball, life.

Brad Keller, pitcher: I was like, “I’m not getting righties out as well as I want to. I feel like I’ve been getting lefties out more.” That night, he went home and I get a text message at like 2 a.m. He’s sending me all the data points. He’s like, “This is what I saw. These are the things I gather.” Out of the blue.

Michael Massey: When I was younger, I would watch him on TV. I’m like, “This guy is incredible, future Hall of Famer, I wonder what he does to get ready before a start.” Flash forward. Now I’m his teammate and I’m warming up in the weight room. He comes in with his big, baggy shirt on. He sits down on the ground, pretzel style. Literally crisscross applesauce. He’s just sitting there for a minute. He pulls a banana out of his pocket and starts eating a banana crisscross applesauce on the weight room floor. He drops the banana peel, stands up with a baseball, walks over to the wall and starts slowly throwing a ball off the wall and catching it. I walked out and was like: “So that’s what a Hall of Fame pitcher does before he starts, huh?”

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He's so Aspergers and its great
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The attendance woes have been worsening for years. During our 2014 season which got off to a good start, we were in first place after Memorial Day, we drew like 24k on the year. Pretty sad. I went to 7 or so games this year and it was a mausoleum each time save the Dodgers Saturday night game. Tons of their fans were at it and the attendance? 28k. F’n pathetic

The fans can’t be blamed for not packing a crap team. But there should be some base level of fans who like a sport or just going out. Looks like we don’t really have that any more. Maybe Kc is just too small for pro sports. “But the Chiefs sell out!” They have Mahomes now. If the Chiefs start losing again you’ll see those 45k crowds like we saw under Pioli
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
I really hope he comes back next season.

A few Greinke stories from The Athletic:

Spoiler!

Collin Snider, pitcher: We’re in Texas and a couple of guys were playing cards before the game. They were talking about guys collecting stuff. (Dylan) Coleman asked if Greinke collects anything cool. And he was just like: “Got a bunch of houses.”

Nicky Lopez: I was on the bench with him and we were facing someone who really liked cats. I was like: “You can’t trust anyone who likes cats.” He goes: “Yeah, man, you really can’t.” I go: “I like dogs. You got any, Zack?” He goes: “Nah, I would never get dogs. I’ve got a cat, though.”

Jonathan Heasley, pitcher: The first time we all felt comfortable was in spring training. He invited all the starters to his house one night, and we all grabbed dinner and hung out over there. That was when we kinda broke the ice. When we first got there, at his house, we were hitting some chip shots. He’s got a little green in his backyard. We’re hitting some balls back there. He asked us if we were hungry. We’re like, “Yeah, a little.” It was pretty early. He’s like, “Well, I just ordered some chicken, but that’s for me. So if you guys want to order something later, we can figure something out.” We’re all just looking around like, “Alright! Sounds good!” And it was awesome. Hung out. Sat around and talked baseball, life.

Brad Keller, pitcher: I was like, “I’m not getting righties out as well as I want to. I feel like I’ve been getting lefties out more.” That night, he went home and I get a text message at like 2 a.m. He’s sending me all the data points. He’s like, “This is what I saw. These are the things I gather.” Out of the blue.

Michael Massey: When I was younger, I would watch him on TV. I’m like, “This guy is incredible, future Hall of Famer, I wonder what he does to get ready before a start.” Flash forward. Now I’m his teammate and I’m warming up in the weight room. He comes in with his big, baggy shirt on. He sits down on the ground, pretzel style. Literally crisscross applesauce. He’s just sitting there for a minute. He pulls a banana out of his pocket and starts eating a banana crisscross applesauce on the weight room floor. He drops the banana peel, stands up with a baseball, walks over to the wall and starts slowly throwing a ball off the wall and catching it. I walked out and was like: “So that’s what a Hall of Fame pitcher does before he starts, huh?”

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Matheny: I played catch with him today. I said, “I can say I caught Zack Greinke.” He goes, “You caught me in between innings, don’t you remember?” I’m like, “Oh yeah. But then you went and got somebody else.” He goes, “Yeah, because I gave up runs. You were bad luck.” I was like, “That’s such crap.” Then he said something (about me), like, “Get somebody else because these guys need to be able to come in and throw their good stuff.”… Like, “You’re not good to catch everybody’s good stuff.” He said that out loud!

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Lopez: We were all sitting around and it was a bunch of young guys who just got called up and Zack. I go: “I’ll give $100 to whoever guesses where Zack was committed to.”

Massey: We’re all guessing, and he’s like: “No, no.”

Lopez: Someone said Creighton or another university and he looked at them and goes: “I was the four-time Gatorade player of the year. Do you think I would ever go there?”

(Nicky Lopez went to Creighton btw)
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
The attendance woes have been worsening for years. During our 2014 season which got off to a good start, we were in first place after Memorial Day, we drew like 24k on the year. Pretty sad. I went to 7 or so games this year and it was a mausoleum each time save the Dodgers Saturday night game. Tons of their fans were at it and the attendance? 28k. F’n pathetic

The fans can’t be blamed for not packing a crap team. But there should be some base level of fans who like a sport or just going out. Looks like we don’t really have that any more. Maybe Kc is just too small for pro sports. “But the Chiefs sell out!” They have Mahomes now. If the Chiefs start losing again you’ll see those 45k crowds like we saw under Pioli

That's one of the downfalls of the consistent losing. You lose some of the core fanbase year over year.
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
The attendance woes have been worsening for years. During our 2014 season which got off to a good start, we were in first place after Memorial Day, we drew like 24k on the year. Pretty sad. I went to 7 or so games this year and it was a mausoleum each time save the Dodgers Saturday night game. Tons of their fans were at it and the attendance? 28k. F’n pathetic

The fans can’t be blamed for not packing a crap team. But there should be some base level of fans who like a sport or just going out. Looks like we don’t really have that any more. Maybe Kc is just too small for pro sports. “But the Chiefs sell out!” They have Mahomes now. If the Chiefs start losing again you’ll see those 45k crowds like we saw under Pioli

The gripes about the Royals attendance are fair, in some regards, but to suggest KC doesn't support the Chiefs winning or losing? They've been doing that loyally ever since Carl and Marty came to town back in 1988.

As far as the Pioli years, while attendance was 'down' the lowest they averaged in any year of his 4 year term was 67,500, and that was actually from 2009, his first year with the team. By 2012, when fans were calling for his head, flying banners and the famous 'blackout game', the Chiefs STILL averaged 68,500 per game. Their lowest attended game that year was against Carolina (one of the 2 teams they actually beat in that lovely 2-14 season) and their attendance that day was 62,860.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...fs-since-2006/

So, the whole '45K crowds' are nothing but hyperbole parroted by the revisionists and ill informed.

The KC fans have supported the Chiefs loyally since 1990, when they finally got competent leadership in place.

If the Royals could get competent leadership in place that allowed the team to compete year in and year out (sans Cleveland, Tampa Bay, etc.) even if it didn't end in a trophy being hoisted, I think it's fair to say attendance would increase. Fans don't want to go out and watch a shit product, especially when it's being headed up by people that don't know what they're doing. Fix the top, filter it on down, and you'll see the entire product improve including fan enthusiasm. Which directly impacts attendance at ballgames.
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I was at the blackout game. It was half full, maybe.
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I was at the blackout game. It was half full, maybe.

Yeah, obviously TomBardtsTwin is using ticket sales reporting figures to fit his narrative on this.

I've been to games every year since my folks first got season tickets back in 1989. Arrowhead in 2012 barely had 50K (if that much) in the stands, in many of the games other than the home opener.

You are right about the blackout game. I'd say at best, there were 40K in the stadium that day.
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Originally Posted by RockChalk:
Yeah, obviously TomBardtsTwin is using ticket sales reporting figures to fit his narrative on this.

I've been to games every year since my folks first got season tickets back in 1989. Arrowhead in 2012 barely had 50K (if that much) in the stands, in many of the games other than the home opener.

You are right about the blackout game. I'd say at best, there were 40K in the stadium that day.

My narrative?

Just looking at the statistics, my man.

I realize everyone likes to use 'eyeball test' to support their viewpoint, but as they say in the courtroom, if you don't have the evidence to back up your claim, the case is getting dismissed.

I don't have any narrative. I was just disputing PB's notion that KC will suddenly stop supporting the Chiefs when Mahomes retires or if we go on an extended losing streak.

If you agree with his take, by all means, you're both entitled to your opinion.
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