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Dante84 01:21 PM 04-29-2021

Reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Green Bay Packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team, league and team sources told ESPN on Thursday.

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— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 29, 2021

#Packers GM Brian Gutekunst to ESPN: "As we've stated since the season ended, we are committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond. Aaron has been a vital part of our success and we look forward to competing for another championship with him leading our team."

— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) April 29, 2021

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Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to return to Green Bay Packers, sources say
Reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Green Bay Packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team, league and team sources told ESPN on Thursday.

The Packers are aware of his feelings, concerned about them and have had team president Mark Murphy, general manager Brian Gutekunst and head coach Matt LaFleur each fly out on separate trips to meet with Rodgers at various points this offseason, sources told ESPN.

"As we've stated since the season ended, we are committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond," Gutekunst told ESPN. "Aaron has been a vital part of our success and we look forward to competing for another championship with him leading our team."

Rodgers has not budged this offseason, but neither have the Packers, who have made it known they are not interested in trading Rodgers anywhere.

The San Francisco 49ers called the Packers on Wednesday night, a source told ESPN, and the Los Angeles Rams inquired about Rodgers in January before they traded for Matthew Stafford.

The Packers quickly dismissed the Rams' overtures, the source said.

The Packers have offered to extend Rodgers' contract, sources told ESPN.

Rodgers is unhappy for a variety of reasons, with some of it dating back to last year's draft when the Packers didn't inform him before trading up to draft a quarterback with their first-round pick. Some took this as a sign that his days in Green Bay could he numbered.

He also is at a different point in his personal life, having recently gotten engaged to actress Shailene Woodley. Rodgers also has hosted "Jeopardy!" and said it would be a dream to become the full-time host. He could play football and host Jeopardy! together.

Rodgers has made cryptic comments about his future in Green Bay, but he has told others that he does not want to return.

On draft night, the Packers' biggest issue isn't who they land, but whether they can keep the former NFL MVP.

Rodgers' contract contained a $6.8 million roster bonus due in March. It could have been converted into a signing bonus that would have freed up more than $4.5 million in salary-cap space for this season but instead it "vested as scheduled," a source told ESPN at the time. It's listed as an automatic conversion in Rodgers' contract but even that has to be signed off on by both parties. It's not known if the Packers tried to convert and Rodgers refused to sign off on it, or if they did not attempt a conversion.

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DomCasual 02:12 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
By (finally), do you mean 25 years before you guys won one, (finally)?
You sure about that?
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RunKC 02:13 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
We'll revisit it in a month. Obviously, everyone but Rodgers himself is guessing, at this point.

What is stupid is to argue that the Broncos don't immediately become a threat in the division and conference, if they have him. They wouldn't be the favorites, obviously. You guys are going to be the favorites. But they'd be in the conversation.
If the Broncos got Rodgers they would be a SB contender and the biggest challenge to KC for the AFC.

Not sure how anyone could argue that. Not like Allen, Lamar or Baker are going to beat a Mahomes or Rodgers Team
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TEX 02:14 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
By (finally), do you mean 25 years before you guys won one, (finally)?
It was 29 years before, but whose counting?
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TEX 02:16 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
If the Broncos got Rodgers they would be a SB contender and the biggest challenge to KC for the AFC.

Not sure how anyone could argue that. Not like Allen, Lamar or Baker are going to beat a Mahomes or Rodgers Team
So that makes it all that more fun to beat them!
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DomCasual 02:16 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
So if he is traded, you need a baseline.

Goff
2021 3rd
2022 1st
2023 1st

That was the Stafford trade. And Stafford is not Rodgers.

IMO Broncos would have to give up at least:

A key piece (probably Chubb)
2022 1st
2023 1st
2024 1st

And likely another two 3rd rd picks to be honest
Well, there are some differences.

Stafford is much younger.

The Stafford trade came at the beginning of the QB carousel ride, when there were lots of bidders.

Stafford wasn't really disgruntled. They had a pretty amicable separation.

Stafford would have signed off on being traded to a long-ish list of teams.

Still, it would take a lot. I'm guessing a solid starter, a couple firsts, and a few other picks. It's worth it, if it opens up, say, a five-year window to go and try and win a championship.
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RealSNR 02:17 PM 05-04-2021
Not afraid of either team, but if it's between the Raiders or the Donks, I'd rather he go to Denver.

Fangio is a fucking fossil. He doesn't relate to his players. He almost got fired after one year after the locker room very nearly went after him with torches and pitchforks. He can put together a good enough defense, but other than that, he's only as good as his offensive coordinator.

For being nothing more than a psychotic meathead, Gruden has actually managed to defeat KC once. Denver has had pleeeenty of prime opportunities, most of it due to circumstantial bullshit like injuries or playing in Week 17 against a rookie QB. And they've lost. Each and every single fucking time.

Rodgers could make the Raiders electric. In Denver I predict the only thing he'll do is highlight just exactly how mediocre those supposedly great weapons are at WR. They'll see a tick up in production, but it's not going to matter all that much.
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DomCasual 02:17 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by TEX:
It was 29 years before, but whose counting?
Again, are you sure?
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JohnnyHammersticks 02:21 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Again, are you sure?
Shit, you're right.

1997
-1970
27 years

My bad :-)
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RealSNR 02:23 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
If the Broncos got Rodgers they would be a SB contender and the biggest challenge to KC for the AFC.

Not sure how anyone could argue that. Not like Allen, Lamar or Baker are going to beat a Mahomes or Rodgers Team
"If we had Aaron Rodgers, we'd be contenders for the conference title" can be said by more than half of the teams in the AFC.

Denver is nothing special in that regard.

Also, what's really funny is if Kansas City had Aaron Rodgers as its starting QB, they'd actually be a worse team :-)
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BossChief 02:23 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
So if he is traded, you need a baseline.

Goff
2021 3rd
2022 1st
2023 1st

That was the Stafford trade. And Stafford is not Rodgers.

IMO Broncos would have to give up at least:

A key piece (probably Chubb)
2022 1st
2023 1st
2024 1st

And likely another two 3rd rd picks to be honest
If I’m GB, I’d draw a line in the sand and Chubb, Jeudy and the next 3 first rounders and laugh all the way to the bank

...if they feel Love can play ball.

Denver has no chance whatsoever if they don’t get a top tier QB...so it’s probably worth a stupid trade like that for a player like Rogers.
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DomCasual 02:28 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
Shit, you're right.

1997
-1970
27 years

My bad :-)
Stoll wrong.

There was no Lombardi Trophy when you won. "Lombardi" was still alive, when you won. A long time ago, in other words.
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comochiefsfan 02:30 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
If the Broncos got Rodgers they would be a SB contender and the biggest challenge to KC for the AFC.

Not sure how anyone could argue that. Not like Allen, Lamar or Baker are going to beat a Mahomes or Rodgers Team
Where did this notion that Rodgers is some unbeatable quarterback come from?

In the last decade he's been bounced out of the playoffs by

Alex Smith
Colin Kaepernick
Carson Palmer
Matt Ryan
Jimmy Garoppolo

It would not surprise me at all if Allen, Lamar or Baker knocked him out.
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DomCasual 02:30 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
"If we had Aaron Rodgers, we'd be contenders for the conference title" can be said by more than half of the teams in the AFC.

Denver is nothing special in that regard.

Also, what's really funny is if Kansas City had Aaron Rodgers as its starting QB, they'd actually be a worse team :-)
Okay. But you're moving the goalposts from the comments that started this back-and-forth. It was said that Aaron Rodgers couldn't help the Broncos crappy roster. That's just patently - well - ill informed.
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Best22 02:33 PM 05-04-2021
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
You guys (finally) win a Lombardi, and you still hold onto this complex? Come on, man. It's time to move on. Just let it slide through your hands.
Cheating is cheating. You guys are no better than New England

Just because we won another Lombardi doesn’t mean we’re gonna forget that you had to cheat to win 2 of yours
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htismaqe 02:34 PM 05-04-2021
What a shit show.
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