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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's all wildly speculate about playcalling.
Direckshun 08:58 AM 12-06-2021
So it has seemed that the playcalling is off this year, no question. It has led a lot of people to speculate that Andy Reid is not making all of the calls.

I personally was not in those ranks; I didn't think there was any chance the Chiefs, who just signed a franchise QB to a half a billion dollar contract, would change up playcalling during a Super Bowl window.

But I do think the Mahomes/Bienemy spat on the sideline gave the game away (because why yell at Bienemy if you hate the playcalls?). And just so you don't think I started a thread based on only my intuition, my suspicions were echoed by extremely sharp Chiefs analysts Tod Palmer and Nick Jacobs on their "4th & 1" podcast. They don't think Reid is calling all the plays.

There is some circumstantial evidence to that. The Chiefs have been run-happier-than-usual on 2nd & longs for much of the season.

We've also seen Mahomes demand plays coming in repeatedly this year, which I've suspected was a kind of angst or anxiety but I think what's happening there is Bienemy's playcalling rhythms may be slower than Reid's, with whom Pat's synced up with for years.

I think I read Mahomes' lips during the sideline spat, saying "call the fucking play" and "call it." Which could very well be a dispute over the playcalling itself, or really just the rhythm.

Either way, that may account for some wonkiness in Mahomes' play this year.
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Dunerdr 02:32 PM 12-08-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Who does Matt Derrick think is calling the plays?
Matt derrick didnt insinuate anything, Chris/Ryan whichever one of them it was said something along the lines of " Because its the raiders, and its important. Does Andy take back over in this one?"
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Direckshun 02:32 PM 12-08-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Not much coaches can do about bad execution.
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....................................coach them out of it.
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Hammock Parties 02:42 PM 12-08-2021
The disconnect here is that playcalling is going to change execution. It won't.

If we're blaming coaching for drops, that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
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mabbott 02:50 PM 12-08-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
The disconnect here is that playcalling is going to change execution. It won't.

If we're blaming coaching for drops, that's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard.
Maybe the coaches could come out and catch the ball for them... then they would be "coaching" them ....

Coaches can help in practice, when it comes to game time and in play execution, it is the players responsibility to execute the play.

Coaches CALL the play, players EXECUTE the play... I thought this was a given FFS!
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Red Dawg 02:54 PM 12-08-2021
I don't blame coaches for drops or execution. Players ultimately win games, not coaches. What I blame is coaches for planning and play calling. The way we have been on offense the last several weeks screams to run the ball more. We ripped off some very good runs against Denver and then shut it off. Why? It was working really well. We have done that too many times just to air it out and fail. Pound the ball and do some play action, it won't kill ya.
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Dunerdr 03:20 PM 12-08-2021
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....................................coach them out of it.
Hey fuck you for this a little bit.
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htismaqe 03:47 PM 12-08-2021
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Matt derrick didnt insinuate anything, Chris/Ryan whichever one of them it was said something along the lines of " Because its the raiders, and its important. Does Andy take back over in this one?"
Take back over play calling? How can he do that if he never gave it up to begin with?
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htismaqe 03:47 PM 12-08-2021
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
I don't blame coaches for drops or execution. Players ultimately win games, not coaches. What I blame is coaches for planning and play calling. The way we have been on offense the last several weeks screams to run the ball more. We ripped off some very good runs against Denver and then shut it off. Why? It was working really well. We have done that too many times just to air it out and fail. Pound the ball and do some play action, it won't kill ya.
RUN THE BALL MOAR!!!!

:-)
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tyecopeland 07:07 PM 12-09-2021
As far as Andy or Bieniemy calling plays...

In an ESPN article about the Panthers firing their OC and his replacement
Originally Posted by :
A week later, coach Matt Rhule fired Brady and replaced him with senior offensive assistant/running backs coach Jeff Nixon, who this week joins the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Byron Leftwich as one of only two Black offensive playcallers in the NFL

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Red Dawg 07:41 PM 12-09-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
RUN THE BALL MOAR!!!!

:-)
Yes. Run the ball more.
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