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Rain Man 12:15 AM 03-22-2009
The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.


Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart: However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

Rain Man 08:25 PM 08-31-2021
My rookie report is a mixed bag, but if I can get three Week 1 starters I think it's a good draft.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - Looking really good, likely starter in Carolina.
#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Looking really good. The Jags cut a veteran safety, so he may be starting.
#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Not sure what's happening here. He got traded before the season. I think he'll get playing time, but probably not as a starter.
#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - Injured. Not sure I'll see him play this year.
#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - Injured. May show up on the Colts' roster midseason.
#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - Got cut. Maybe he'll land on the practice squad. I'll keep him around to give him at least a year to develop.
#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer. Week 1 starter.
#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). I knew he was hurt when I drafted him. I may not see him on the field this year.
#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - High-risk pick, which I knew going in. He got cut. I'll keep him around for a year to see if he lands on a practice squad.
Rain Man 08:30 PM 08-31-2021
My cuts:

First, I lost two guys in free agency.

Sammy Watkins
Damien Wilson

Then I cut these guys.

Derrick Gore
Prince Tega Wanogho
Michael Jordan
Andrew Wylie
Ben Niemann
Maurice Hurst
Mike Pennel
Jordan Ta'amu
Jerick McKinnon
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Antonio Callaway
Ricky Seals-Jones
Mitchell Schwartz
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)
Keliechi Osemele
Bryan Witzmann
Kyle Long
Austin Reiter, OL
Tedric Thompson
Antonio Hamilton
Dicaprio Bootle

I'm strong enough on the OL that I cut a starting guard in Michael Jordan.

I hated to cut Niemann, Hurst, and Pennel, but I had no choice.

And by the way, I declined the trade for Mike Hughes. I'm deep at cornerback.
Kellerfox 09:52 PM 08-31-2021
I’ll try to tackle my roster & cuts this weekend.

Quick analysis on my draft picks… every single pick made their teams initial 53-man roster.

#2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills)

I had hoped he would be an immediate hit and wow in camp / preseason, but unfortunately he has somewhat been lost behind a few other pass rushers on the Bills roster. I don’t expect a lot of production this year. Still, camp reports still point to potential.

#2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs)

Angry my physician team for not disclosing that Humphrey is a South Paw, but happy to have landed a perennial pro bowler.

#4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles)

The Eagles are very excited about Gainwell and so am I. Gainwell should be their primary pass catching back right off the bat, and will inevitably take over when Miles Sanders has his inevitable season ending injury. I expect Gainwell to have an Antonio Gibson - sequel rookie season if all goes to plan.

#5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons)

Made the 53 man roster, but didn’t wow anyone. I have a tough decision ahead on whether to keep Darby, or roll the dice on a Fountain.

#6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers)

I haven’t seen much of McDuffie, I think he may have been injured for much of camp. He did make the Packers roster, and they are thin at LB, so hoping it all comes together mid season.

#6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals)

Tay was awful in the preseason, but made the Cards 53 man roster as one of only 4 CBs because they have jack shit at the position. Barring a trade, Gowan will see significant time. Best hope hard lessons turn into serious growth.

#6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs)

Rainman covered it - locking down a future HOFer in the 6th round = VALUE

#6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears)

Made the Bears roster, impressed in camp, probably won’t see much playing time.
kccrow 07:48 PM 09-02-2021
Rookie Report

I still feel like this could be a solid class for me with Jenkins, Adebo, Perkins, Nixon, and Smith looking good early on. That said, counting on Jenkins to be my LT in what could be a redshirt year for him after surgery is going to leave me with a huge hole for 2021.

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Jenkins ended up on IR with his back surgery. We'll see if he returns in 2021, but this puts me in a rough spot at LT.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
From everything I've seen and read, Adebo looks good and should see significant snaps this year. Hey may not get the starting gig over Crawley out of the gate, but it sounds like he will soon.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Perkins had a pretty good camp and was taking time from Winovich as a rotational pass rusher. He could develop into an asset quickly but he probably doesn't start with Judon and Van Noy there unless Bill changes to a 3-4 more frequently.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Ball ended up on IR and had a high ankle early so I really have no idea what I'll have here, if anything.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Nixon had a good camp and is listed as 2nd string. He should get quite a few snaps based on what I've seen and heard.

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
I'm a bit more worried about this pick after a lackluster pre-season than I was in minicamp but there's time.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
McDuffie made the roster in Green Bay, but he's 3rd string and it's hard to put a finger on what I have here.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Smith looks like a stud, which we kind of expected out of a 1st Round-caliber player that fell.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
Nixon missed the cut but the Pats kept him on the practice squad. I may have missed on a traits-based shot in the dark.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
I was really excited about Doaks but he missed the cut in Miami and ended up on their PS. I may not give up on him just yet though, given he had a pretty solid preseaon finale.
kccrow 08:54 PM 09-02-2021



QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC)

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - Jerick McKinnon (FA/21 - KC)

FB - Michael Burton (FA/21 - KC)

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Noah Gray (#5-162 - KC)
TE - Blake Bell (FA/21 - KC)

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF)
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Daurice Fountain (FA/21 - KC)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)

OT - Eric Fisher (IND)
OT - Teven Jenkins (#1-31/21 - CHI)
OT - Josh Ball (#4-136/21 - DAL)
OT - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)

LG - Joe Thuney (FA/21 - KC)
RG - Trey Smith (#6-221/21 - KC)
OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif

OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ)
OC - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)


DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU)
DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - DAL)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA)
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC)
DL - Jarran Reed (FA/21 - KC)
DL - Daviyon Nixon (#4-144/21 - CAR)

ER - Justin Houston (BAL)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - NE)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)
ER - Ronnie Perkins (#3-94/21 - NE)

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN)
LB - Isaiah McDuffie (#6-208 - GB)

CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC)
CB - Paulson Adebo (#2-63/21 - NO)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Mike Hughes (t-MIN/21)
CB - DeAndre Baker (FA/20 - KC)

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC)
LS James Winchester

Offseason Trades
Trade OL Yasir Durant to NE for 2022 7th
Trade 2022 6th to MIN for CB Mike Hughes and 2022 7th

WR - Antonio Calloway (FA/20 - KC)
TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - FA)
CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC)
ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC)
OT - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)
DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
OG - Kyle Long (FA/21 - KC)
OC - Austin Blythe (FA/21 - KC)
OL - Mitchell Schwartz (FA)
WR - Tre Nixon (#6-226/21 - NE)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - NO)
RB - Gerrid Doaks (#6-226/21 - MIA)

Notes: Parting with 6th and 7th rounders early into their careers doesn't bother me but having to release 2nd and 3rd rounders do. I simply have too many defensive linemen to hang onto Phillips who has done nothing but regress post-injury. K-Pass is also a casualty as I'd rather hang onto the potential of oft-injured Okorowonko than limited productivity, hoping this is the year he gets out of the tub.

That said I'm not too disappointed in the roster sans my ability to rework the tackle position. I'm hanging onto Fisher as a last-ditch effort of hope that I'll have a left tackle at some point this season. Meanwhile, I'm hanging onto Wylie over Blythe just to have a RT at all. To be honest, I thought about hanging onto Schwartz as well in hopes he signs somewhere... Things are thin around here.

Speaking of bad luck with losing players to injury, I've also lost 'Bisi Johnson for the season with a torn ACL, but I literally have nobody but a practice squad player in Nixon to push him off the team. I'd rather hang on for next year with the kid than hope Nixon pushes his way into the league.
Kellerfox 10:11 AM 09-04-2021

Tacoma Trash Pandas 2021 Roster

Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
Chad Henne (Chiefs)

Clyde Edwards-Helaire(Chiefs)
Kenneth Gainwell (Eagles)
Jerrick McKinnon (Chiefs)
Darrel Williams (Chiefs)

Michael Burton (Chiefs)

Tyreek Hill (Chiefs)
Mecole Hardman (Chiefs)
Demarcus Robinson (Chiefs)
Frank Darby (Falcons)
Byron Pringle (Chiefs)
Daurice Fountain (Chiefs)

Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Blake Bell (Chiefs)
Jody Fortson (Chiefs)

Orlando Brown Jr. (Chiefs)
Lucas Niang (Chiefs)
Mike Remmers (Chiefs)

Joe Thuney (Chiefs)
Trey Smith (Chiefs - Drafted)
Andrew Wylie (Chiefs)

Creed Humphrey (Chiefs - Drafted)
Austin Blythe (Chiefs)
Nick Allegretti (Chiefs)


Jarran Reed (Chiefs)
Khalen Saunders (Chiefs)
Derrick Nnadi (Chiefs)
Khyris Tonga (Bears)
Tershawn Wharton (Chiefs)

Chris Jones (Chiefs)
Frank Clark (Chiefs)
Carlos Basham Jr. (Bills)
Mike Danna (Chiefs)
Alex Okafor (Chiefs)

Willie Gay Jr. (Chiefs)
Dorian O’Daniel (Chiefs)

Anthony Hitchens (Chiefs)
Isaiah McDuffie (Packers)
Ben Niemann (Chiefs)

L’Jarius Sneed (Chiefs)
Charvarius Ward (Chiefs)
Rashad Fenton (Chiefs)
Tay Gowan (Cardinals)
De’Andre Baker (Chiefs)
Mike Hughes (Chiefs)

Juan Thornhill (Chiefs)
Armani Watts (Chiefs)

Tyrann Mathieu (Chiefs)
Daniel Sorensen (Chiefs)


Tommy Townsend (Chiefs)

Harrison Butker (Chiefs)

James Winchester (Chiefs)
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