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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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lewdog 09:02 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
I'm most likely wrong on no reports. They are probably rolled up under Maricopa county or something. Maricopa is a city outside of Phoenix as well. That number looks way high. And there were reports of our first case was an ASU student. Bad data gathering.

Not many tests here. People told to stay home and quarantine with symptoms, and they aren’t always tested.

300+ cases in Phoenix and metro area. 5 deaths currently.
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petegz28 09:02 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
I have family in Italy and it is very different from the US. The observations about the country being older is true, and the area hardest hit also is a destination for foreigners who have homes there.

The biggest problem they have is when they shut down the country the population didn’t really go along with it. That created a much bigger rate of spread that overwhelmed their health care systems in the north and doubled the normal death rate.

That can happen here. But the numbers are encouraging that we may avoid the same kind of hole that Italy put themselves in. We’ll know more in a week or so.
I'm telling you now the numbers already show we are not going to be Italy. Plus we have resources that Italy does not have. We are not going to be Italy, thankfully.
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O.city 09:03 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
World wide the % of critical cases is still at 4%. 96% are mild. That's an important stat to be mindful of.
Of the ones we know of

Did you read the oxford study today?
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Why Not? 09:03 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by Dayze:
Is this some radical new therapy?
Oh Dr. Marvin’s a genius, your death therapy cured me, you genius.
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eDave 09:04 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Not many tests here. People told to stay home and quarantine with symptoms, and they aren’t always tested.

300+ cases in Phoenix and metro area. 5 deaths currently.
Do you know what our hospital capacities are? We has A LOT of hospitals. So many hospitals. Can't throw a stick at the club without hitting a wasted, foul mouthed nurse.
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Why Not? 09:05 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
I'm most likely wrong on no reports. They are probably rolled up under Maricopa county or something. Maricopa is a city outside of Phoenix as well. That number looks way high. And there were reports of our first case was an ASU student. Bad data gathering.

Yeah, after a slow start, AZ is playing catch up. We’re at 404 total cases(251 in Maricopa County)and 6 deaths.
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petegz28 09:05 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Not many tests here. People told to stay home and quarantine with symptoms, and they aren’t always tested.

300+ cases in Phoenix and metro area. 5 deaths currently.
I am starting to question the reliability of the testing numbers anyway. First we were told you were only being tested if you had symptoms. Now some are saying they aren't even testing you and just assuming you have it.

Then we have people that have it and either don't show symptoms or are mild and don't go ever get tested.
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DenverChief 09:05 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I'm telling you now the numbers already show we are not going to be Italy. Plus we have resources that Italy does not have. We are not going to be Italy, thankfully.
Thats not what the government experts are predicting.
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Why Not? 09:06 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
Do you know what our hospital capacities are? We has A LOT of hospitals. So many hospitals. Can't throw a stick at the club without hitting a wasted, foul mouthed nurse.
16,000 beds. 1,500 ICU beds.
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BigRedChief 09:07 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
I have family in Italy and it is very different from the US. The observations about the country being older is true, and the area hardest hit also is a destination for foreigners who have homes there.

The biggest problem they have is when they shut down the country the population didn’t really go along with it. That created a much bigger rate of spread that overwhelmed their health care systems in the north and doubled the normal death rate.

That can happen here. But the numbers are encouraging that we may avoid the same kind of hole that Italy put themselves in. We’ll know more in a week or so.
100 Americans die in 6 hours. How’s that encouraging math?

US coronavirus deaths via @CNN:

100 deaths: March 17, 4 pm
200 deaths: March 20, 12 pm
300 deaths: Saturday, 8 pm
400 deaths: Sunday, 6 pm
500 deaths: Monday, 3 pm
600 deaths: Yesterday, 12 pm
700 deaths: Yesterday, 8 pm
800 deaths: Today, 12 pm
900 deaths: Today, 6 pm

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) March 26, 2020

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petegz28 09:07 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Of the ones we know of

Did you read the oxford study today?
No but this is starting to become like politics, you can find a study or a test or a doctor to fit whatever narrative you want.

Case in point, we have a doctor that says he cured 350 people with HCQ and now we have 2 governors who have banned its use for whatever reasons they have.
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carlos3652 09:08 PM 03-25-2020
the US has matched Italy in deaths per day today vs what Italy was showing 2 weeks ago as their per day deaths. When we had less than 30 deaths here in total in the US and most of them were from the nursing home in WA.

So when people stated that the US would be in Italy’s shoes 2 weeks ago... if we are comparing deaths per day, they were spot on.

The data backs it up.
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BigRedChief 09:08 PM 03-25-2020

Reported US cases

3/1: 89
3/2: 105
3/3: 125
3/4: 159
3/5: 227
3/6: 331
3/7: 444
3/8: 564
3/9: 728
3/10: 1000
3/11: 1267
3/12: 1645
3/13: 2204
3/14: 2826
3/15: 3505
3/16: 4466
3/17: 6135
3/18: 8760
3/19: 13229
3/20: 18763
3/21: 25740
3/22: 34276
3/23: 42663
3/24: 52976
Now: 65273

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) March 26, 2020

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petegz28 09:09 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
100 Americans die in 6 hours. How’s that encouraging math?


Dude, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but 100 Americans die in 6 hours for lots of things every day.
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patteeu 09:10 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
That's a false myth spread on the internet, which apparently came from France during the early days of the virus.

Motrin/Ibuprofen is completely safe to take if you have or think you have the virus.

Here's a link:

https://www.sciencealert.com/who-rec...id-19-symptoms
Gotcha. Good information.
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