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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Frazod 04:37 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
The only people laughing were doing so at you.
When I goad you into banning yourself for my own amusement, it's really only my laughter that concerns me.
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baitism 04:43 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Wait, you live in a shitty apartment near NYC, right? Who is the hypocrite?
Right down the street from his favorite bar, The Blue Oyster.
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Saul Good 04:45 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
So you're saying that the best Kansas has to offer is better than the best Missouri has to offer?
Are you under the impression that I live in the most expensive residence in Kansas or Missouri? I don't.

I live in a suburb of Kansas City, MO. The fact that Kansas City, MO spilled over into Kansas and created a nice place to live in an otherwise crappy state is really incidental to Kansas.

I put a lot of work into my lawn. My neighbor's lawn is shit. Sometimes, my nice grass grows across the property line and gives him a really nice patch of grass. that patch in his yard may be nicer than some problem areas in my yard. That doesn't mean that his yard, as a whole, is nicer than my lawn.
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Pants 04:48 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Are you under the impression that I live in the most expensive residence in Kansas or Missouri? I don't.

I live in a suburb of Kansas City, MO. The fact that Kansas City, MO spilled over into Kansas and created a nice place to live in an otherwise crappy state is really incidental to Kansas.

I put a lot of work into my lawn. My neighbor's lawn is shit. Sometimes, my nice grass grows across the property line and gives him a really nice patch of grass. that patch in his yard may be nicer than some problem areas in my yard. That doesn't mean that his yard, as a whole, is nicer than my lawn.
You don't need to give me another analogy, I understand your point that you think Missouri is nicer overall than Kansas. That's nice and you're entitled to your opinion. I was just curious why you choose to live in Kansas, that's all.
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Saul Good 04:52 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
So you're saying that the best Kansas has to offer is better than the best Missouri has to offer?
Originally Posted by Pants:
You don't need to give me another analogy, I understand your point that you think Missouri is nicer overall than Kansas. That's nice and you're entitled to your opinion. I was just curious why you choose to live in Kansas, that's all.
I chose to live in a suburb of Kansas City. The fact that it happens to be barely within the borders of Kansas is of little consequence. My location is more impacted by the good things in KCMO much more than by the wasteland to the West. Otherwise, I wouldn't live here.
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Bambi 04:53 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
You don't need to give me another analogy, I understand your point that you think Missouri is nicer overall than Kansas. That's nice and you're entitled to your opinion. I was just curious why you choose to live in Kansas, that's all.
Dude, just give up. There are people on this board that are here to try and divide us...nothing more.

The fact that they are being made the bitch by the southern wing of their state is only feeding into their trolling.

The other fact that the two biggest shit talkers don't even live in the state they are trying to prop up is all the evidence you need.
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HemiEd 04:53 PM 12-06-2011
Nothing new here, I just read the last three pages and they are like the first 99.
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Pants 04:54 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I chose to live in a suburb of Kansas City. The fact that it happens to be barely within the borders of Kansas is of little consequence. My location is more impacted by the good things in KCMO much more than by the wasteland to the West. Otherwise, I wouldn't live here.
But aren't there suburbs on the other side of Kansas City?
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Frazod 04:55 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
Nothing new here, I just read the last three pages and they are like the first 99.
Yeah, pretty much. I had put it on ignore a month ago, but ignored threads still pop in the "last post" box, and I had forgotten about ignoring it, so I posted.

I was then a bit confused when I couldn't find it on the list, but then I remembered.

I should probably put it back on ignore. :-)
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ChiefsCountry 05:15 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
The fact that they are being made the bitch by the southern wing of their state is only feeding into their trolling.
Yeah the least populated area of the state is controlling the decisions of the two big metro areas. Man you are a delliusional douchebag.
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evenfall 05:44 PM 12-06-2011
Ah, nothing like watching rival fans go at it. Clearly there is still plenty of animosity. It's too bad one of these schools is afraid of scheduling the other any longer.
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Saul Good 07:15 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
The fact that they are being made the bitch by the southern wing of their state is only feeding into their trolling.
Yes, Forsyth and Purdy and Poplar Bluff dominate the political landscape of the state of Missouri. I was crushed to find out that I got exactly what I was cheering for.
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KC native 07:20 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Buck:
While the rest of you are bitching about god knows what, I'm here to bitch about SDSU's move to the Big East.

It's football only. It's an increase of $2 million in TV revenue, and it's not until 2013. Coincidentally, 2013 is the year that a lot of people are estimating will be the last year of the Big East's AQ status in the BCS.

Being football only, the rest of the schools programs can't move to the Big East (not that they probably wanted to anyway). The Mountain West already set precedent by kicking BYU's sports programs out of the conference once BYU Football went independent. So now, the rest of our programs are going to move to the Big West, which consists of teams like Long Beach State, UC Santa Barbara, Cal State Fullerton, UC Davis, UC Riverside, etc.

This is horrible for our basketball program. We've started getting commits from 4 and 5 star recruits, but I'm pretty sure you can throw those out the window now.

It sucks.
You could always try the self invite yourself to the big 12 route like SMU did. It might work out for you guys. :-)

Seriously though, I knew SDSU would get fucked in the realignments. I actually feel bad for you guys. Fuck Boise though.
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ChiefsCountry 07:34 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Yes, Forsyth and Purdy and Poplar Bluff dominate the political landscape of the state of Missouri. I was crushed to find out that I got exactly what I was cheering for.
Not to mention the largest city in southern Missouri isn't exactly Mizzou's big hot bed either.
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VonneMarie 08:06 PM 12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
But aren't there suburbs on the other side of Kansas City?
No
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