For me, the most pro-ready and best all around prospect at WR is Amari Cooper. He would come in and immediately start across from Bowe and eventually replace him as the primary WR.
What's wrong with Sammy Coates?
The guy has all of the tools in the world, I would equate him to Vernon Davis but at the WR position, but he hasn't produced much at all this season. Coates isn't even close to being his team's leading receiver so I'm not going to blame it on the scheme. Physically, Coates looks like a top 10 pick but his production is that of a mid to late rounder. Where would you take him?
Any thoughts on Coates' teammate, D'haquille Williams?
There is a massive difference in production between he and Sammy Coates so far this year; yes, this could be entirely due to Coates being injured from the Arkansas game but Coates only caught one pass in that game and dropped a possible TD pass despite playing 52 snaps against the Razorbacks. Williams is a JUCO transfer with good size, speed, and explosiveness, though not on the same level as Coates as far as pure physical ability goes. Is he a potential #1 WR or just a 2 at best?
Does DGB declare? If so, do you even dare to touch him given his off-field issues?
Despite not playing this season, I think that there is a real possibility that DGB does declare for the 2015 NFL draft; he just doesn't seem like the type of person who would be willing to go through another year of college over getting paid as a pro athlete. If he does declare, what round would you be willing to take a risk on him? The guy has had problems with at least two key NFL issues, abuse of women and weed. DGB has top 5 talent but an off-field reputation that would have him banned from the league if he had committed those acts as a Pro.
Do Jaelen Strong, Kevin White, or Devante Parker have enough speed to be potential #1 WRs? If not, are their other gifts good enough for them to be close to what Larry Fitzgerald has been in the league?
Is Stefon Diggs actually that fast? When I watch him, I don't see the same dimension of speed that guys like Jackson, Wallace, etc have. I'll be very curious to see what he actually runs at the Combine.
Who are you guys keeping your eyes on this year at the WR position? [Reply]
Originally Posted by planetdoc:
I guess so. I'm not thrilled with Lockett's small hands, but they are bigger then Deanthony thomas who Dorsey selected.
The point is that Lockett is one of, if not the best, route runners in this class. I've heard it said from several analysts, and it's why he was always open at KState. Crisp routes along with his quickness and speed is a strong combination. [Reply]
Amari Cooper, phillip dorsett, nelson aghor, devante parker, rashad greene, tony lippett, tre'mcrbide are the other guys in the draft who have '+' route running.
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ESPN's Mel Kiper called USC WR Nelson Agholor "a high-floor player if he's working with a decent QB."
"Match 4.42 speed with a dependable skill set as a route-runner and mostly reliable hands and you have a high-floor player if he's working with a decent QB," Kiper wrote. Agholor posted a 4.44 "unofficial" forty with a 1.53 10-yard split last week in Indianapolis. Unfortunately, he dislocated a finger during catching drills and missed the remainder of the event. Mar 1 - 4:48 PM
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According to NFL Media's Charles Davis, USC wide receivers coach Tee Martin has told him that USC WR Nelson Agholor reminds him of a young Reggie Wayne.
"What I like about Agholor is he's a former running back out of high school who has trained himself to be a receiver while at USC," Davis said. "He's worked hard to become a technician." The analyst believes that Agholor himself could be a nice replacement for Wayne in Indy. Agholor, who caught 104 passes for 1,313 yards (12.6) and 12 scores in 2014, posted a 4.44 "unofficial" forty with a 1.53 10-yard split last week in Indianapolis. Mar 7 - 6:25 PM
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Growing up, East Carolina wide receiver and NFL draft prospect Justin Hardy had Jerry Rice as his football icon. He loved everything about Rice and the way he played. But for Hardy, looking up to Rice meant more than just having a San Francisco 49ers No. 80 jersey or buying his football cards or playing with him on video games.
It meant emulating Rice in every way, and for Hardy this meant spending his downtime catching bricks.
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.Justin Hard at the Senior Bowl. (USA TODAY Sports)
Justin Hard at the Senior Bowl. (USA TODAY Sports)
One day in elementary school, Hardy read how when Rice was growing up he would work with his father, a brick mason, and got strong hands by catching bricks tossed to him from his father. So Hardy went out and found a brick of his own so he could begin down a path he hoped would take him to the NFL. Since his father wasn't a brick mason Hardy would have a friend stand a few feet away and underhand toss him a brick.
He'd try to catch it dead on with a full grip, just like Rice would. Then he'd toss it back and repeat.
Over and over and over again.
“After school, weekends, whenever I could,” Hardy said. “In the summer when you're looking for things to do we'd do that.”
It was painstaking stuff but the player who one day would become one of the most prolific wide receivers in college football last year knew it would be worth it, even if no one else thought much about him.
Hardy didn't get any BCS scholarship offers despite being a standout quarterback at West Craven High School in Vanceboro, N.C. East Carolina offered him the chance to walk on and he spent a year as a redshirt getting stronger in the weight room and working on the scout team. His ability to make plays was undeniable. The following spring he received a scholarship as a reward for the progress he made. Hardy, who doesn't say much and shuns attention, was thrilled that his parents wouldn't have to worry about paying for his education.
The story is similar to that of Rice, who didn't have a single major college program offer him a scholarship out of high school and played his college football at Mississippi Valley State University, far off the beaten path of powerhouse programs. Like his role model growing up, Hardy turned being overlooked into some head-turning plays.
During his last three seasons at East Carolina, Hardy topped 1,000 receiving yards each season. Now he is one of the more interesting wide receivers in the draft.
Last year as a senior, he had 121 receptions for 1,494 yards with 10 touchdowns. He ran a 4.56 time in the 40-yard dash and a three-cone drill time of 6.63 seconds at the NFL scouting combine, numbers that will help his draft stock.
He always had dreams of playing in the NFL and even when the big colleges didn't come knocking with offers, he continued to work. Hardy has been training for the draft at TEST Football Academy since January and he senses that he is closing in on his childhood dream of playing in the league.
It's a rewarding feeling for a young man who grew up catching bricks and didn't let the college recruiting process keep him down. Instead, he turned all those bricks he caught as a boy into a road of success.
“I never second-guessed, I just worked harder to pursue my goals,” Hardy said. “I just want to get an opportunity to be on a team and play a lot of years in the NFL. That's all I want.”
Originally Posted by philfree:
How many WRs will be drafted in the first 50 picks or before our 2nd round pick?
Good question!
At this point I've accepted that the top 3 WR's will surely be gone before we pick at 18, and the only WR in the first I'm in favor of is DGB. He might be too much trouble for a 1st, and even he could be gone by the time we pick at 18. So many good WRs in this draft we are better off looking for #2 in the 2nd or 3rd.
For certain at least one of these guys will be available...Dorsett, Agholor, Greene, Hardy, or Lockett
I'm not sure what to make of Dorsey's comments on WRs that Planetdoc linked to.
On the one hand it makes perfect sense to only go after guys that fit your system. On the other hand, maybe your system sucks and needs tweaking a bit.
It looks like if Maclin wasn't around they wouldn't have pursued any WR. That's kind of troubling. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
I'm not sure what to make of Dorsey's comments on WRs that Planetdoc linked to.
On the one hand it makes perfect sense to only go after guys that fit your system. On the other hand, maybe your system sucks and needs tweaking a bit.
It looks like if Maclin wasn't around they wouldn't have pursued any WR. That's kind of troubling.
