Crazy Stat: Patrick Mahomes could throw 15 touchdowns the rest of his career and still finish with more career touchdown passes than Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman.
Mahomes is even better at commentary than Aikman and he's A) never done it before and B) sounds like he has Kermit's ding dong down his throat. Aikman is overall just not as good as Mahomes as a human and he'll have to get over that. [Reply]
he was elite, just elite for a shorter period of time due to concussions, and without a lot of gaudy numbers because he played on such stacked teams
aikman could pick the flies off a rhino's ass at 50 yards, and the rhino wouldn't hear the ball coming - that's how sweet of a ball he could throw when he was on
is mahomes better than aikman? without question - doesn't mean aikman wasn't a fucking badass QB [Reply]
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Aikman also played in an era where WR's were frequently mugged and QB's took head shots on the regular with no or few penalties.
Still, Aikman was never anywhere near as good a QB as Mahomes. Had Aikman landed with any other team in that era, he likely isn't a HOF player.
I actually completely disagree. The 70’s and 80’s? Sure. But if you think Aikman is HOF and only put up more than 20+ tds in one season his entire career, i suggest looking up favre and his stats. He played throughout the entire 90’s besides 1990, and look at his stats?
Favre threw for 30+ tds from 1994-1998.
Aikman who was essentially in his prime years during that same span, never reached 20 tds in a single season or thereafter. He is grossly overrated. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
the aikman slander needs to end
he was elite, just elite for a shorter period of time due to concussions, and without a lot of gaudy numbers because he played on such stacked teams
aikman could pick the flies off a rhino's ass at 50 yards, and the rhino wouldn't hear the ball coming - that's how sweet of a ball he could throw when he was on
is mahomes better than aikman? without question - doesn't mean aikman wasn't a fucking badass QB
Aikman was never the best QB in the NFL, or NFC. Perhaps he was the best QB in his division most of the time though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
the aikman slander needs to end
he was elite, just elite for a shorter period of time due to concussions, and without a lot of gaudy numbers because he played on such stacked teams
aikman could pick the flies off a rhino's ass at 50 yards, and the rhino wouldn't hear the ball coming - that's how sweet of a ball he could throw when he was on
is mahomes better than aikman? without question - doesn't mean aikman wasn't a ****ing badass QB
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Aikman was never the best QB in the NFL, or NFC. Perhaps he was the best QB in his division most of the time though.
for a good chunk of his career he and Young were neck and neck in the NFC as far as QB ability
a lot of his stats get completely ignored due to the difference in eras and the team he played on, which had a brick wall for a defense and an OL that churned out red zone TDs like fast food burgers
For example, in 1993, troy threw for 3100 yards and 15 TD. What a LOSER!
However, his '93 NFL rankings in:
Completion percentage: 1st (almost 70%, which was unheard of those days)
TDs: 10th
INTs: 1st
YPA: 2nd
Yards per game: 4th
QB rating: 2nd
Take those rankings and apply them to 2021:
70%
27 TD
4 INT
4,886 yards
108 QB rating
And now let's talk about "Playoff Troy Aikman."
When Troy had to face Favre, Kelly and Young in the postseason, you know what his averages were?
281 yards per game, 2.1 TD per game and 0.87 INT per game. And he went 7-1 in those games. That's as good as any QB from that era.
Yes, he was fucking elite. People who say otherwise never watched him and also don't know what the fuck they're talking about when comparing different passing eras.
Had he played today he'd have been dropping 4500 yards and 35 TD on the reg. Probably more, since it's impossible to assemble a team like Dallas did now. He'd be forced to throw more into defenses with far less teeth, that can't even hit him.
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
the aikman slander needs to end
he was elite, just elite for a shorter period of time due to concussions, and without a lot of gaudy numbers because he played on such stacked teams
aikman could pick the flies off a rhino's ass at 50 yards, and the rhino wouldn't hear the ball coming - that's how sweet of a ball he could throw when he was on
is mahomes better than aikman? without question - doesn't mean aikman wasn't a fucking badass QB
Aikman will listen to this after Mahomes has won three Super Bowl rings.
Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch:
There were rumors late in his career, I think he was formally retired, that Aikman was coming to the Chiefs. Anyone remember that? Circa 1999.
Supposedly it was nearly a done deal but it never happened.
Yeah. I thought it was actually just before the Trent Green trade happened. Everybody knew/thought we were going to get Green, but the negotiations took longer than usual, so in the meantime everybody was like, "Well, what now?" "If they can't get Green, maybe just roll with Aikman for a year or two until you find your guy?" [Reply]
Originally Posted by Willie Lanier:
Dan Fouts is the king clown of clown shows, Troy is at least palatable to a degree and that Cowboy brand endears his dumbassery to Cowboy nation, and that's why he still got his shot at mnf over Dan, who unless you're part of the tiny charger fan base you most likely despise as an analyst
Yea, that is a good description. There are plenty of announcers that I actively dislike and Troy isn't one of them. [Reply]
I don't mind him as an announcer. I just think he's kind of a dumb chode as a person and extremely overrated as a QB that handed it to Emmitt and occasionally hit the TE or WR who was wide open [Reply]