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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>2024 WR Class
Couch-Potato 08:45 PM 10-10-2023
Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?
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MahomesMagic 12:40 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Idk about using a high asset on a field stretcher though. The air yards went way down in 2021 after the league used Fangio's cover 2 shell on us.

Defenses are adamant that they absolutely will not give up the deep ball to us under any circumstances. They want Patrick having 8-12 play drives malign him impatient with the opportunity of someone else like a WR or OL making a mistake. That's the only way they've stalled him in his career. That's certainly not changing.

That's why I think a lower cost guy like Mooney with Hardman as the depth option makes sense.

Feels like they want to get back to destroying teams in the intermediate level of the field again like they did in 2022 when they had around 4.5 air yards avg per completion.

Even a Darius Slayton for 5 million would do the vertical decoy stretch stuff that Franklin is supposed to achieve.
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O.city 12:42 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Idk about using a high asset on a field stretcher though. The air yards went way down in 2021 after the league used Fangio's cover 2 shell on us.

Defenses are adamant that they absolutely will not give up the deep ball to us under any circumstances. They want Patrick having 8-12 play drives malign him impatient with the opportunity of someone else like a WR or OL making a mistake. That's the only way they've stalled him in his career. That's certainly not changing.

That's why I think a lower cost guy like Mooney with Hardman as the depth option makes sense.

Feels like they want to get back to destroying teams in the intermediate level of the field again like they did in 2022 when they had around 4.5 air yards avg per completion.
They spent half the year throwing it to backs and tight ends.

Teams didn't take away the deep stuff this year. We didn't have guys catch it iwhen it was there.
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staylor26 12:49 PM 02-27-2024
Again, like Worthy, Franklin isn't just a vertical threat. They can operate at every level of the field.
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Mecca 12:50 PM 02-27-2024
This idea that Franklin is just a vertical guy is overblown.
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MahomesMagic 12:52 PM 02-27-2024
I like Thomas a lot more than Franklin as a Vertical #2.
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Mecca 12:54 PM 02-27-2024
Brian Thomas probably isn't making it to our pick.
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RunKC 12:55 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
They spent half the year throwing it to backs and tight ends.

Teams didn't take away the deep stuff this year. We didn't have guys catch it iwhen it was there.
SF had a handful of plays that were disguised/recover single high shifting to cover 2 or just pure cover 1 (on plays they had to blitz at the end).

The Hardman deep ball was one of them. The safety trying to take away an angle from Kelce then shifting to the deep ball and then loses the ball. That's all it takes man. And that's a throw a lot of QB's don't even attempt.

If you're a DC with any level of competency, you're playing cover 2 100% of the time unless you need a key blitz play or two....and you never want either of your safeties with their back turned to the QB or it's over.

Cover 2 with 2 guys deep and everything in front of them is the standard against us


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Chargem 12:55 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
They spent half the year throwing it to backs and tight ends.

Teams didn't take away the deep stuff this year. We didn't have guys catch it when it was there.
I don't have access to the advanced stats like defense alignments played vs the Chiefs but I have heard more than one podcaster/analyst say the Chiefs still saw high %s of 2 high shells and light boxes this past season.
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MahomesMagic 12:57 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Brian Thomas probably isn't making it to our pick.
Right now I have 5 WR's I would consider in the 1st.


Nabers
Harrison Jr
Odunze
Mitchell
Thomas Jr

If none of those guys are available (I would probably want to move ahead of Baltimore so Monken doesn't grab Adonai)

I would not want another WR in the 1st with our pick.
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RunKC 12:58 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Again, like Worthy, Franklin isn't just a vertical threat. They can operate at every level of the field.
Honestly I don't give a shit about how fast they are in comparison to how well they run routes. We need a guy with experience running the route tree. No idea if that's Worthy but if it is great.

The speed is an added bonus for me
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O.city 12:58 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
SF had a handful of plays that were disguised/recover single high shifting to cover 2 or just pure cover 1 (on plays they had to blitz at the end).

The Hardman deep ball was one of them. The safety trying to take away an angle from Kelce then shifting to the deep ball and then loses the ball. That's all it takes man. And that's a throw a lot of QB's don't even attempt.

If you're a DC with any level of competency, you're playing cover 2 100% of the time unless you need a key blitz play or two....and you never want either of your safeties with their back turned to the QB or it's over.

Cover 2 with 2 guys deep and everything in front of them is the standard against us

He's not "shitfting" away from Kelce. He's reacting to the pass, he's already out of position.

If you have the guys that can run thru cover 2, they can't slow you down with it.
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Mecca 12:58 PM 02-27-2024
I love Odunze but that ain't happening either.
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O.city 12:59 PM 02-27-2024
The Ravens going back to back WR's in the first. Why would they want Mitchell?
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MahomesMagic 12:59 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Honestly I don't give a shit about how fast they are in comparison to how well they run routes. We need a guy with experience running the route tree. No idea if that's Worthy but if it is great.

The speed is an added bonus for me
I would put Worthy behind Adonai AND Sanders at Texas for route running.

And Worthy is tiny, tiny.
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MahomesMagic 01:01 PM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
The Ravens going back to back WR's in the first. Why would they want Mitchell?

Adonai as the #1 and Flowers then gets even easier matchups....


Would be deadly.

And they can't pay OBJ again.

Their OC recruited Adonai. He knows him and his talent.
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