Originally Posted by staylor26:
Final WR Rankings:
1. MHJ
2. Nabers
3. Odunze
4. BTJ
5. Mitchell
6. Worthy
7. Franklin
8. McConkey
9. Pearsall
10. Coleman
11. Legette
12. R. Wilson
13. Burton (not factoring in character concerns)
14. Baker
15. Walker
16. Polk
17. McMillan
18. Corley
19. J. Wilson
20. Rice
21. Cowing
22. M. Washington
23. Thrash
24. McCaffrey
25. T. Washington
It's a great list. Here is mine:
1. MHJ
2. Nabers
3. Odunze
GAP
4. Mitchell
5. Thomas
GAP
Guys with multirole tools:
6. Worthy
7. McConkey
8. Pearsall
9. Coleman
10. Legette
GAP
Guys who will be one outside role guys but good tools:
11. Franklin
12. Burton (character/coachability may take him off the board even for the Chiefs and probably should)
13. J. Wilson (could be a unicorn, would be about Vincent Jackson upside)
14. Baker
15. Polk
16. Walker
Slot /gadget guys:
17. McMillan
18. R. Wilson
19. Corley
Other guys I just love:
T. Washington
J. Coker
A. Smith
Guys I probably should revisit because I feel like I am not giving them enough credit:
M. Washington
J. Thrash
I. Williams [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
It's a great list. Here is mine:
1. MHJ
2. Nabers
3. Odunze
GAP
4. Mitchell
5. Thomas
GAP
Guys with multirole tools:
6. Worthy
7. McConkey
8. Pearsall
9. Coleman
10. Legette
GAP
Guys who will be one outside role guys but good tools:
11. Franklin
12. Burton (character/coachability may take him off the board even for the Chiefs and probably should)
13. J. Wilson (could be a unicorn, would be about Vincent Jackson upside)
14. Baker
15. Polk
16. Walker
Slot /gadget guys:
17. McMillan
18. R. Wilson
19. Corley
Other guys I just love:
T. Washington
J. Coker
A. Smith
Guys I probably should revisit because I feel like I am not giving them enough credit:
M. Washington
J. Thrash
I. Williams
What pushed Mitchel over btj for you? I could see him being the better pro if things go right but I haven’t seen anyone rank him above btj. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
What pushed Mitchel over btj for you? I could see him being the better pro if things go right but I haven’t seen anyone rank him above btj.
Mitchell has better hands and works man coverage better, imo. He more instinctively attacks leverage and exploits DBs. Like creating over commitment and then bursting to create separation. I also felt he had equal acceleration and better agility when he had the switch set to on, which means to me he has a higher capability than Thomas as a route runner. I guess I figure if you are going for all upside with either of these picks, you may as well go for the one with the higher upside.
The only real question I have relates to the plays he took off, why he doesn't play with more physicality, and why he plays so much slower against zone coverage. The answer to those questions will define how early he is taken, imo, because if you can fix it, he may be the best receiver in this class.
I did a thorough breakdown of him (thorough at least for me) earlier in this thread if you are interested - both strengths and weaknesses, with specific examples cited. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
Mitchell has better hands and works man coverage better, imo. He more instinctively attacks leverage and exploits DBs. Like creating over commitment and then bursting to create separation. I also felt he had equal acceleration and better agility when he had the switch set to on, which means to me he has a higher capability than Thomas as a route runner. I guess I figure if you are going for all upside with either of these picks, you may as well go for the one with the higher upside.
The only real question I have relates to the plays he took off, why he doesn't play with more physicality, and why he plays so much slower against zone coverage. The answer to those questions will define how early he is taken, imo, because if you can fix it, he may be the best receiver in this class.
I did a thorough breakdown of him (thorough at least for me) earlier in this thread if you are interested - both strengths and weaknesses, with specific examples cited.
Well I hope you are right and the concerns off the field drop him to us. [Reply]
Nightfyre, you definitely have your opinion which I respect. We're going to strongly disagree on Thomas and Mitchell being in the same stratosphere as route runners and that doesn't favor Mitchell. That isn't to say I don't think Mitchell is capable of it, I just think Thomas is much more complete. [Reply]
Earl round players who have been medically flagged by some teams, according to @SInow:
- WR Malik Nabers, shoulder - T Troy Fautanu, knee - DE Laiatu Latu, neck - WR Brian Thomas Jr., shoulder - QB Michael Penix Jr., knee and shoulder - WR Ladd McConkey, ankle and back pic.twitter.com/cxZSRiycwX
Originally Posted by In58men:
Source is Sports Illustrated, not MLFootball!
Earl round players who have been medically flagged by some teams, according to @SInow:
- WR Malik Nabers, shoulder - T Troy Fautanu, knee - DE Laiatu Latu, neck - WR Brian Thomas Jr., shoulder - QB Michael Penix Jr., knee and shoulder - WR Ladd McConkey, ankle and back pic.twitter.com/cxZSRiycwX
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Nightfyre, you definitely have your opinion which I respect. We're going to strongly disagree on Thomas and Mitchell being in the same stratosphere as route runners and that doesn't favor Mitchell. That isn't to say I don't think Mitchell is capable of it, I just think Thomas is much more complete.
I hear you. I am also just going to leave this here. I hope Matt Harmon does something on BTJ soon, but basically I feel like Harmon's analysis lines up very well with my assessment. That's an NFL route tree with virtually zero schemed up, force fed production.
