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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Chiefnj2 12:28 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
There are a lot of potential problems with the Merck pill. Scary that something like ivermectin gets treated like the devil, but a pill that can mutate RNA and possibly induce viral mutations is going to get no mass media scrutiny.
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TLO 12:35 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Today, the doc told Mom that he doesn’t even think he can be off the BiPAP long enough to be put on a ventilator - so we’re at a point where if he starts to suffer, decisions will have to be made.

I hate myself for being angry right now, but this all could have been easily avoided. I’m ****ing sick right now.
I'm very sorry to hear this
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TLO 12:36 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
There are a lot of potential problems with the Merck pill. Scary that something like ivermectin gets treated like the devil, but a pill that can mutate RNA and possibly induce viral mutations is going to get no mass media scrutiny.
:-):-):-):-):-):-)
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Chiefnj2 12:38 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by TLO:
:-):-):-):-):-):-)
https://www.science.org/content/arti...le-cause-alarm

and another

https://www.barrons.com/articles/mer...ks-51633398722

and from another article


"The FDA also had concerns about using molnupiravir in pregnant women and children. (Merck and the FDA agree that the drug should not be authorized for people under 18.) In studies in rats of a dose much higher than is given to people, researchers saw reductions in fetal body weight as well as “external, visceral, and skeletal malformations” in surviving fetuses."
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WilliamTheIrish 02:47 PM 12-21-2021
Chief Medical Officers for metro area hospitals, including Lawrence and Topeka met this on Dec 17. Infusion sets for monoclonal antibodies are in extreme shortage.

Hopefully, this one burns through quickly.
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mr. tegu 03:32 PM 12-21-2021
It seems to me as the new variant spreads and with so many people already somewhat resistant due to prior infections and vaccines that we are getting closer to the point of this being similar to pre covid years with regards to impact and the likely numbers of coronavirus/rhinovirus cases that we would have seen had everyone been getting tested all the time.
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loochy 03:35 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
It seems to me as the new variant spreads and with so many people already somewhat resistant due to prior infections and vaccines that we are getting closer to the point of this being similar to pre covid years with regards to impact and the likely numbers of coronavirus/rhinovirus cases that we would have seen had everyone been getting tested all the time.

well i guess we'll see what the hospitals look like
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TLO 04:41 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
https://www.science.org/content/arti...le-cause-alarm

and another

https://www.barrons.com/articles/mer...ks-51633398722

and from another article


"The FDA also had concerns about using molnupiravir in pregnant women and children. (Merck and the FDA agree that the drug should not be authorized for people under 18.) In studies in rats of a dose much higher than is given to people, researchers saw reductions in fetal body weight as well as “external, visceral, and skeletal malformations” in surviving fetuses."
If you would have just posted that and left out the part about ivermectin then ok
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O.city 04:54 PM 12-21-2021

Great work by @GuptaR_lab and colleagues on Omicron suggesting:
- High escape from NAbs
- Reduced spike cleavage efficiency
- Lower infectivity of lung cells
- Similar/higher infectivity of epithelia
- Impaired fusogenicity / ability to form syncytia
1/https://t.co/PppJQ7JySX pic.twitter.com/VGAV7ZNmyC

— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) December 21, 2021


So that's good news. Spreads fast, but gives up ability to really cause problems for thos with previous immunity.
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IA_Chiefs_fan 04:55 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by TLO:
If you would have just posted that and left out the part about ivermectin then ok
But... but... Ivermectin is the miracle elixir.
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4th and Long 05:07 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
Chief Medical Officers for metro area hospitals, including Lawrence and Topeka met this on Dec 17. Infusion sets for monoclonal antibodies are in extreme shortage.

Hopefully, this one burns through quickly.
I can tell you from experience, because this is what I do for a living, that this is correct. I placed an order for MABs 4 weeks ago. They just arrived today and not in the entirety of the quantity I ordered.
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4th and Long 05:09 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by loochy:
well i guess we'll see what the hospitals look like
I can tell you what they look like. We have MORE COVID patients now than we did a year ago.
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TLO 05:24 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by 4th and Long:
I can tell you what they look like. We have MORE COVID patients now than we did a year ago.
Where are you located?

Oddly enough.. We had quite the spike right around Thanksgiving, and our numbers have been dropping ever since. Cases, hospitalizations, test positivity, everything. I'm in NW Missouri.
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4th and Long 06:19 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by TLO:
Where are you located?

Oddly enough.. We had quite the spike right around Thanksgiving, and our numbers have been dropping ever since. Cases, hospitalizations, test positivity, everything. I'm in NW Missouri.
The "Greater Kansas City" area.
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WilliamTheIrish 07:05 PM 12-21-2021
Originally Posted by 4th and Long:
I can tell you from experience, because this is what I do for a living, that this is correct. I placed an order for MABs 4 weeks ago. They just arrived today and not in the entirety of the quantity I ordered.
I wish you luck in the next 4 weeks. On 12/17

Advent Health - 41 cases. 13 deaths since 12/01

CMH 14 hospitalized.

HCA Midwest - 151 hospitalized. No beds available. Covid-19 death rate is >11%

Liberty- 33 hospitalized. 90% unvaccinated.

NKCH - 106 hospitalized. On 11/1 had 19 hospitalized.

Olathe - 41 hospitalized. This is > than their high point for all of 2020.

Truman- 62 hospitalized. 6x higher than 30 days ago. 19 deaths in December.
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