Originally Posted by Mecca:
All I can say for moves in Cleveland is since Dorsey was hired here some 6 years ago no GM has drafted more pro bowl players than he has.
Dude knows talent above all else.
We know for a fact Brett Veach found Patrick Mahomes, not John Dorsey. How many other instances were there where Veach found a player and presented him to Dorsey?
Wasn’t he our scout that covered the SEC region when we drafted Chris Jones?
Dorsey is a really good scout, but I think Veach is too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I think it would have been more about the run game consistency when the offense was struggling, Hunt is much better at making something out of nothing.
Originally Posted by Monty:
No, you don't get it. The organization should have addressed this last spring when all the rumors were fresh about this incident. The organization was lazy and relied heavily on Cleveland PD's lack of pressing charges as an out in case something came up later. This all falls back on the organization. Sure, Khunt is just an RB( a damn good one at that i.e. NFL Rushing Leader), but there's team chemistry, motivation from a teammate, etc. going on here. The decision to release Khunt was short-sighted, irresponsible, and an easy way out. There were a thousand other ways to deal with this and the organization chose method 1,001.
But sure, he lied. That's wrong. We all get that.
But do you think for one second that the Pats would have released him like the Chiefs did? Or any other team in contention? I'm not saying he shouldn't have been suspended at all for what he did both in actions and by lying, but someone needed to jump in and help the kid out last spring(or before). There's no way that anyone who was close to him didn't see this coming. What a waste.
No the Chiefs were trying to get the tape to find out for themselves, but the NFL made them back off. Just another example of Goodell making the wrong decision at EVERY turn. Chiefs should have told goodell to suck one and kept trying to get the tape tho [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
We know for a fact Brett Veach found Patrick Mahomes, not John Dorsey. How many other instances were there where Veach found a player and presented him to Dorsey?
Wasn’t he our scout that covered the SEC region when we drafted Chris Jones?
Dorsey is a really good scout, but I think Veach is too.
If you want to go down that rabbit hole then apparently no GM really deserves any credit.
I'll give them the credit for the guys that were picked on their watch, that's the best way to do it.
You realize in Dorseys time with the Chiefs they drafted 13 pro bowl players? That's pretty insane. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
The Chiefs approached him multiple times about the incident and he said nothing happened. The video comes out and these other incidents come out.
The Chiefs didn't trust him anymore. End of his tenure. Sure it sucks.
The Browns don't GAF. They want to win and are making moves to ensure that they do. The Chiefs are giving away assets to help ensure that happens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
The Chiefs approached him multiple times about the incident and he said nothing happened. The video comes out and these other incidents come out.
The Chiefs didn't trust him anymore. End of his tenure. Sure it sucks.
Lazy, lazy, lazy. The Chiefs should have resolved this internally last spring before TMZ was able to get their hands on this.
And yes, it really sucks. This is one of those Because Chiefs moments for sure. [Reply]
Would Hunt have even been allowed to play even if we didn't cut him? There's no point talking about what would've happened with him against NE. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monty:
No, you don't get it. The organization should have addressed this last spring when all the rumors were fresh about this incident. The organization was lazy and relied heavily on Cleveland PD's lack of pressing charges as an out in case something came up later. This all falls back on the organization. Sure, Khunt is just an RB( a damn good one at that i.e. NFL Rushing Leader), but there's team chemistry, motivation from a teammate, etc. going on here. The decision to release Khunt was short-sighted, irresponsible, and an easy way out. There were a thousand other ways to deal with this and the organization chose method 1,001.
But sure, he lied. That's wrong. We all get that.
But do you think for one second that the Pats would have released him like the Chiefs did? Or any other team in contention? I'm not saying he shouldn't have been suspended at all for what he did both in actions and by lying, but someone needed to jump in and help the kid out last spring(or before). There's no way that anyone who was close to him didn't see this coming. What a waste.
Hard to say it all happened at the exact wrong time with the SJW thing going on. Even the slimeballs in NE wouldn't have stood up against the wrath of pissed off women. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
The Browns don't GAF. They want to win and are making moves to ensure that they do. The Chiefs are giving away assets to help ensure that happens.
You're right. The Chiefs colluding to make the Browns successful. [Reply]