Originally Posted by staylor26:
I don't agree about using a 1st for next year, but I'd be down to do a couple trade ups with 2 of our day 2 picks for next year if it means locking up WR and LT long term.
We will need to overpay to move up.
It’s basically KC -vs- Rest of NFL at this point.
If we gotta use next years 1st to move up for Mims or another LT with elite tools, it will be worth every bit.
Then move up from 64 and take Pearsall, Ladd, Polk, Corley or Franklin.
Value shop the rest of the way with the house money you’re playing with. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief:
We will need to overpay to move up.
It’s basically KC -vs- Rest of NFL at this point.
If we gotta use next years 1st to move up for Mims or another LT with elite tools, it will be worth every bit.
Then move up from 64 and take Pearsall, Ladd, Polk, Corley or Franklin.
Value shop the rest of the way with the house money you’re playing with.
All the so called "elite tackles" after Alt and Fashanu are RT's so there's no point moving up for a guy who may not even adapt well to play LT. Veach has shown he ain't giving up first round picks for young projects. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
All the so called "elite tackles" after Alt and Fashanu are RT's so there's no point moving up for a guy who may not even adapt well to play LT. Veach has shown he ain't giving up first round picks for young projects.
I mean, FAU is a project. Karlaftis was a bit of a project. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
I mean, FAU is a project. Karlaftis was a bit of a project.
They were picked with one first rounder. Not traded up for with a future first. Also George was a highly rated DE who happened to fall. Not really a project [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Which current WRs around the league could we trade for now that we have cap space?
Saw someone suggest a surprise trade for between the Chiefs and Seahawks for Dk Metcalf.
That'd certainly be something.
Man, just say no to trading and paying. Trading AWAY players to gain assets and cap space is better. And then use that cap space to retain the real core pieces - McDuffie, the best linemen etc.
I'd love Thomas but I think he's going way higher than the sheep mocks typically project. Like Indy or around there as the floor. That's a little rich for a trade up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
All the so called "elite tackles" after Alt and Fashanu are RT's so there's no point moving up for a guy who may not even adapt well to play LT. Veach has shown he ain't giving up first round picks for young projects.
I keep saying stuff like this so I appreciate it...the hard on this fanbase has for taking a Tackle in the 1st round this year is baffling to me.
Yeah let's give up on Morris after 3 games but yet go and draft someone who be every bit as raw as he is and expect them to come in start....just genius. Talk about wasting a draft pick.
The WR talent you'll have available to you presumably is way too good to pass up to be taking a project tackle. [Reply]
People are worried Wanya Morris isn’t a long term quality starter and likely for good reason. He looked like the worst OT play this team has had since Jordan Black in the Raiders game. It was an abysmal performance.
Malcolm Koonce generated career highs in pressures (8) and sacks (3) in the Raiders’ 20-14 win over the Chiefs.
Koonce generated 7 of his 8 pressures and all 3 sacks across 31 one-on-one matchups against Chiefs rookie left tackle Wanya Morris.#LVvsKC | #RaiderNation
Originally Posted by RunKC:
People are worried Wanya Morris isn’t a long term quality starter and likely for good reason. He looked like the worst OT play this team has had since Jordan Black in the Raiders game. It was an abysmal performance.
Malcolm Koonce generated career highs in pressures (8) and sacks (3) in the Raiders’ 20-14 win over the Chiefs.
Koonce generated 7 of his 8 pressures and all 3 sacks across 31 one-on-one matchups against Chiefs rookie left tackle Wanya Morris.#LVvsKC | #RaiderNation
Are people really gonna judge Morris's whole career off the back of one game? He was bad against the Raiders like 99% of the players were including Mahomes. But Wanya did show in other games that he can be OK given a chance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
The T prospects are just as good as the WR's we're gonna be picking at that spot.
The guy you woudl theoretically take is better than Morris.
I'm theoretically a millionaire in my head yet here I am...
...and no the tackle prospects you might be taking at 32 or even if you trade up a bit are not as good as the WR prospects you might be able to take.\
You're really gonna sit here and tell me that next year and even beyond someone like Mims or Guyton will have more of an impact on this team than AD Mitchell, Worthy, or if you somehow lucked into Brian Thomas Jr.?
Originally Posted by Jerm:
I'm theoretically a millionaire in my head yet here I am...
...and no the tackle prospects you might be taking at 32 or even if you trade up a bit are not as good as the WR prospects you might be able to take.\
You're really gonna sit here and tell me that next year and even beyond someone like Mims or Guyton will have more of an impact on this team than AD Mitchell, Worthy, or if you somehow lucked into Brian Thomas Jr.?
Come on...
If they're a good LT? Yeah.
Especially when there's gonna be WR's into the 2nd/3rd round that will end up being as good as the guys you're talking about here.
WR's generally come from all over the draft. LT's usually don't. [Reply]
Chris Meck 03-28-2024, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city:
If they're a good LT? Yeah.
Especially when there's gonna be WR's into the 2nd/3rd round that will end up being as good as the guys you're talking about here.
WR's generally come from all over the draft. LT's usually don't.
The issue is most of them have been RT's their whole career so it's a massive gamble thinking they can just switch over and be equally as good. I'd much rather get a very good WR early and take a less rated LT in the second or third round who has upside and already plays the position. Patrick Paul and Kiran Amegadjie are just two names that come to mind. Both have all the needed physical traits and played left-tackle in school. So there would be no questions to be answered. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
The issue is most of them have been RT's their whole career so it's a massive gamble thinking they can just switch over and be equally as good. I'd much rather get a very good WR early and take a less rated LT in the second or third round who has upside and already plays the position. Patrick Paul and Kiran Amegadjie are just two names that come to mind. Both have all the needed physical traits and played left-tackle in school. So there would be no questions to be answered.
Picking where we do every year, they're going to have to take chances like that. It's just the way it is. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Picking where we do every year, they're going to have to take chances like that. It's just the way it is.
There's always guys who are undervalued and slip through the net. Kiran and Paul would normally go way higher in another draft class imo but they are gonna slip down and hopefully Veach takes advantage of it. [Reply]