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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Matt Gaetz: (alleged) sex trafficker
DaKCMan AP 04:36 PM 03-30-2021
Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/u...stigation.html
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Fat Elvis 09:08 PM 04-29-2021

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eDave 09:13 PM 04-29-2021
This is not good for bitcoin. HODL, you idiot.
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banyon 09:15 PM 04-29-2021
Easily the best/worst interview for Tucker since Gaetz:

Giuliani: They also got it from the icloud *gestures upwards* pic.twitter.com/meN4c0zG3D

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 30, 2021

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vonBobo 10:57 PM 04-29-2021
Gaetz, Greene plan national tour to call out RINOs

Gaetz and Greene will kick off their barnstorming “America First Tour” on May 7 in the mega-conservative Florida retirement community known as The Villages, a must-stop for any Republican candidate hoping to win the state or generate grassroots excitement. The idea is to send a message from the two controversial Republicans: they’re not canceled, they’re not going to be quiet and the infamy their critics attribute to them is translatable as fame and power in the conservative movement.

“The radical left is coming for you. And they know I'm in the way. Come stand with me as we fight back together against this radical president and his far left agenda,” Gaetz says in a new radio ad rallying conservatives to The Villages event.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...r-rinos-485061

Incredible. So MTG is hitching her wagon up with "MG" huh? What a lovely political party you got there.

And of course Gaetz continues to push the "we are under attack" panic button, exposing it for the self serving, fear mongering ruse that it is.
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eDave 11:11 PM 04-29-2021
Evidence to support the fact that Jan. 6 was and is the greater threat to democracy.
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Fishpicker 11:18 PM 04-29-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
Easily the best/worst interview for Tucker since Gaetz:

he's talking about Bidens laptop hard drives. the FBI refused to seize them despite the warrant requiring the seizure of Rudy's electronic devices and computers.
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vonBobo 11:34 PM 04-29-2021
Originally Posted by Fishpicker:
he's talking about Bidens laptop hard drives. the FBI refused to seize them despite the warrant requiring the seizure of Rudy's electronic devices and computers.
Well, technically that isn't Rudy's hard drive.

I love thinking about how all this went down. Did the agents ask Rudy "is this yours?" every time they found a device? Did Hunter write his name on the hard drive? Or maybe the hard drive was sitting in Rudy's Trump shrine and they missed it?Was Rudy chasing after them pleading for them to take it?

Maybe Rudy should have written "HB" on all of his own devices.
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DaKCMan AP 07:38 AM 04-30-2021
Originally Posted by Fishpicker:
he's talking about Bidens laptop hard drives. the FBI refused to seize them despite the warrant requiring the seizure of Rudy's electronic devices and computers.

The agents would not have been permitted to seize a laptop belonging to someone else because the search warrant application — and the probable cause — only related to Giuliani and his possessions.

But I thought Rudy gave the laptop to the FBI long ago? https://t.co/GCmMFh2dEL

— Daniel Goldman (@danielsgoldman) April 30, 2021

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banyon 08:50 AM 04-30-2021
Originally Posted by Fishpicker:
he's talking about Bidens laptop hard drives. the FBI refused to seize them despite the warrant requiring the seizure of Rudy's electronic devices and computers.
Why would they? Their warrant was for Rudy’s property and his crimes. They don’t get to seize stuff during execution of the warrant just because someone says “hey! Take this too!”

Besides, didn’t Rudy already say like a year ago the FBI had confiscated that? So people need to think critically about why Rudy is now saying they wouldn’t seize it today.
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BigBeauford 08:51 AM 04-30-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
Why would they? Their warrant was for Rudy’s property and his crimes. They don’t get to seize stuff during execution of the warrant just because someone says “hey! Take this too!”

Besides, didn’t Rudy already say like a year ago the FBI had confiscated that? So people need to think critically about why Rudy is now saying they wouldn’t seize it today.
:-)
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NinerDoug 11:39 AM 04-30-2021
https://www.thedailybeast.com/joel-g...sex-with-minor

A confession letter written by Joel Greenberg in the final months of the Trump presidency claims that he and close associate Rep. Matt Gaetz paid for sex with multiple women—as well as a girl who was 17 at the time.

“On more than one occasion, this individual was involved in sexual activities with several of the other girls, the congressman from Florida’s 1st Congressional District and myself,” Greenberg wrote in reference to the 17-year-old.

“From time to time, gas money or gifts, rent or partial tuition payments were made to several of these girls, including the individual who was not yet 18. I did see the acts occur firsthand and Venmo transactions, Cash App or other payments were made to these girls on behalf of the Congressman.”

The letter, which The Daily Beast recently obtained, was written after Greenberg—who was under federal indictment—asked Roger Stone to help him secure a pardon from then-President Donald Trump.

A series of private messages starting in late 2020—also recently obtained by The Daily Beast—shows a number of exchanges between Greenberg and Stone conducted over the encrypted-messaging app Signal, with communications set to disappear. However, Greenberg appears to have taken screenshots of a number of their conversations.

“If I get you $250k in Bitcoin would that help or is this not a financial matter,” Greenberg wrote to Stone, one message shows.

“I understand all of this and have taken it into consideration,” Stone replied. “I will know more in the next 24 hours I cannot push too hard because of the nonsense surrounding pardons.”

“I hope you are prepared to wire me $250,000 because I am feeling confident,” Stone wrote to Greenberg on Jan. 13.

In a text message to The Daily Beast, Stone said that Greenberg had tried to hire him to assist with a pardon, but he denied asking for or receiving payment or interceding on his behalf. He did, however, confirm he had Greenberg prepare “a document explaining his prosecution.”

In the private text messages to Stone, Greenberg described his activities with Gaetz, repeatedly referring to the Republican congressman by his initials, “MG,” or as “Matt.”

“My lawyers that I fired, know the whole story about MG’s involvement,” Greenberg wrote to Stone on Dec. 21. “They know he paid me to pay the girls and that he and I both had sex with the girl who was underage.”

As part of the effort to obtain a pardon, Greenberg wrote multiple drafts of his confession letter. The Daily Beast obtained two typed versions and an earlier handwritten one. Certified forensic document examiner and handwriting expert Wendy Carlson compared the letter to writing samples obtained through two public-records requests. She said it was her professional expert opinion that the person who authored a 2019 financial disclosure for Joel Greenberg, as well as Greenberg’s 2020 Board of Elections form, was the same as the author of the letter.

“The person who authored the forms has been identified as the person who authored the letter,” Carlson said.

In those letters, Greenberg detailed his relationship with Gaetz. He confessed to paying young women for sex. And he claimed that he, Gaetz, and others had sex with a minor they believed to be 19 at the time. Greenberg said he learned she was underage on Sept. 4, 2017, from “an anonymous tip” and quickly contacted Gaetz.

“Immediately I called the congressman and warned him to stay clear of this person and informed him she was underage,” Greenberg wrote. “He was equally shocked and disturbed by this revelation.”

Greenberg continued in the handwritten draft that he “confronted” the then-17-year-old and explained to her “how serious of a situation this was, how many people she put in danger.”

“She apologized and recognized that by lying about her age, she endangered many people,” he continued. “There was no further contact with this individual until after her 18th birthday.”

But after she reached the age of legal consent in Florida, Greenberg re-established contact. As The Daily Beast previously reported, about five months after her 18th birthday, Gaetz sent Greenberg $900 in two Venmo transactions—one titled “Test” and the other titled “hit up ___.” The blank contained a nickname for this girl, and Greenberg paid her and two other women a total of $900 about six hours later.

In his confession letter, Greenberg also admitted he facilitated Gaetz’s interactions with college students—and paid them on his behalf.

“All of the girls were in college or post college and it was not uncommon for either myself or the Congressman to help anyone [sic] of these girls financially, whether it was a car payment, a flight home to see their family or something as simple as helping pay a speeding ticket,” Greenberg wrote.

A partial record of Greenberg’s Venmo and Cash App transactions suggests that payments were usually for a lot more than “gas money.” The Daily Beast identified more than 150 Venmo payments from Greenberg to women, as well as more than 70 additional payments on the Cash App, that were generally between $300 and $500—though some exceeded $1,000. The Daily Beast also talked to 12 of the more than 40 different women who received money, and they all said they understood Greenberg was paying them at least in part for sex.

Greenberg, a disgraced local politician in Florida, currently faces a sweeping 33-count indictment that ranges from stalking to sex trafficking. In March, The New York Times revealed that the initial investigation into the Seminole County tax official expanded as agents looked into his role in arranging paid sexual encounters for his friend Matt Gaetz.

Federal prosecutors have not criminally charged Gaetz—or even publicly confirmed the expansion of their probe. While Gaetz acknowledges the existence of the investigation, he denies having sex with an underage teen. But at some point, Greenberg began to cooperate with investigators, a development his lawyer has suggested poses a serious problem for Gaetz.

That defense lawyer, Fritz Scheller, declined to comment for this story, citing attorney-client privilege.

Gaetz’s office did not respond. However, Logan Circle Group, an outside public-relations firm Gaetz has hired, sent the following statement:

“Congressman Gaetz has never paid for sex nor has he had sex with a 17 year old as an adult. We are now one month after your outlet and others first reported such lies, and no one has gone on record to directly accuse him of either. Politico, however, has reported Mr. Greenberg threatening to make false accusations against others, which seems noteworthy for your story and in fact sounds like the entirety of your story. Congressman Gaetz has had no role in advocating for or against a pardon for Greenberg and doubts such a pardon was ever even considered.”

The Politico article referred to in the statement does not say Greenberg was threatening to make false accusations against others, but does say that an associate claimed Greenberg had warned friends that “everyone is going to need a lawyer.”

Neither the U.S. Secret Service nor federal prosecutors with the Middle District of Florida would provide comment for this article either, citing a policy of not confirming or denying the existence of an ongoing investigation.

In the final months of the Trump presidency, Greenberg and Stone exchanged several texts about a pardon over the encrypted-messaging app Signal. While images show that the pair frequently set messages to automatically delete, Greenberg regularly took screenshots of their communications.

Stone, who received a presidential commutation last July but at the time had not yet been pardoned, communicated with Greenberg for months about the latter’s desire for a pardon.

The messages show that in November, the pair discussed putting together a “document,” which later took the form of a confession letter and background missive about all the ways in which Greenberg had been loyal to Trump. In their early conversations, Greenberg told Stone that the letter was “about 8-10 pages” and asked if it should be shortened.

“No,” Stone replied, “use as much space as you need to tell the story fully but be certain to include your leader ship [sic] for Trump prominently.”

Greenberg almost immediately responded that he had “killed” himself for Trump. “And I’ve killed my self [sic] for Matt,” he said.

The letter went through multiple drafts and detailed Greenberg’s encounters with Gaetz, but it also focused on Greenberg’s early support of Trump’s run in 2016, such as posting a “Super Trump” highway billboard on Interstate 4. (A version of the letter actually includes the image Greenberg used for the billboard.)

On Nov. 20, 2020, Stone told Greenberg he had received “the document” and would show it to the team that “got me my commutation.”

“I will review it with them and give you a budget. This is very doable and the time is now,” Stone wrote.

An update from Stone came just after midnight on Dec. 8: “Your thing is being looked at and I will have an answer by Saturday as to whether you have a viable shot for justice and how to go about it.”

“Thank you so much Roger,” Greenberg replied. “I am very thankful for you. I pray that the Lord will help. I remain optimistic and will wait to hear back from you.”

Stone quickly sought to dampen expectations surrounding “the whole pardon circus.”

“This is treacherous territory with a lot of different players such as Jared and Giuliani playing a hand,” Stone wrote, presumably referring to Trump adviser Jared Kushner and the president’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. “I have two things I’m trying to get done. Sit tight.”

On Dec. 21, Greenberg told Stone that government investigators were pressing him to cooperate. “The FBI, DOJ, Secret Service and a bunch of people from DC have repeatedly made attempts to meet with my [sic] lately. I have declined. But they are definitely ramping up pressure.”

“They want me to flip,” he continued. “They have made offers which I’ve declined. I even fired my lawyers this week because they tried to convince me to cooperate and that a pardon was impossible.”

Greenberg then revealed to Stone that his former lawyers were aware of the “whole story” regarding Matt Gaetz’s role.
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lawrenceRaider 11:45 AM 04-30-2021
So many total POS's involved in this story. If any of them told me the sky was blue I'd look outside to the sky to see if it was true.
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NinerDoug 12:18 PM 04-30-2021
I wonder if Gaetz is still engaged. Seems unlikely.
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lawrenceRaider 12:48 PM 04-30-2021
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
I wonder if Gaetz is still engaged. Seems unlikely.
Probably paying for that as well.
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Prison Bitch 01:03 PM 04-30-2021
If Gaetz hung out with us on the Alt right, he’d never have gotten into this situation.

He chose instead to be a MAGAtard. And look where he is now. I bet he still doesn’t realize Fat Donny never helps his friends out when they’re in need. Unless Kushner approves it.
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