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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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dirk digler 11:27 AM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Not much talk on this here. This is great news. Stops transmission.
Add Another reason why I wanted Moderna vaccine
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warrior 11:34 AM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
It may just depend on people's work and life situations, but I'd probably prefer to wait a little longer and get the 95% version as long as it's not too long. I have a great shelter-in-place lifestyle.



Hmmmm that's where I'm at I'll wait tell it's pretty much safe or covid mysteriously disappears
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O.city 11:49 AM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Add Another reason why I wanted Moderna vaccine
They're the same tech, I can't imagine why they wouldn't do the same.
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Chiefnj2 11:49 AM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Not much talk on this here. This is great news. Stops transmission.
It didn’t stop transmission.
They tested pre-dose 2 test subjects and found:
14 asymptomatic who had the first vaccine
38 asymptotic who had placebo.
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chiefzilla1501 11:58 AM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
The big win seems to be in having different cold storage temps. Pfizer vaccine needs to be super, super cold and I imagine things like dry ice will run out quickly. Also very hard to distribute to remote third world countries. Moderna seems significantly easier to distribute.
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O.city 12:05 PM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
It didn’t stop transmission.
They tested pre-dose 2 test subjects and found:
14 asymptomatic who had the first vaccine
38 asymptotic who had placebo.

Important on @moderna_tx vaccine trial for reducing transmission from FDA briefing docs https://t.co/GAUikTXvYd
They did nasal swabs after 1st dose and showed reduction of asymptomatic infections, reflecting impact on blocking transmission. Very encouraging! pic.twitter.com/6IVSj8E3F0

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) December 15, 2020

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'Hamas' Jenkins 12:16 PM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
That corresponds to a relative risk of 0.37 for transmission
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TLO 12:32 PM 12-15-2020
This all looks very, very good.

I did a read through of the data myself. I'm in no way qualified to interpret data, but in my layman's understanding, Moderna is greater than or equal to the Pfizer jab.

I'd take either one offered to me.
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DaFace 12:33 PM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
This all looks very, very good.

I did a read through of the data myself. I'm in no way qualified to interpret data, but in my layman's understanding, Moderna is greater than or equal to the Pfizer jab.

I'd take either one offered to me.
Again, from a layman's perspective, they look damn near indistinguishable. Moderna is just a little easier to distribute (and, if I'm understanding it correctly, we have more doses of it ordered).
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TLO 12:34 PM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I don't think Pfizer has this data included, if I'm remembering correctly?

Either way I think it's very plausible to think that it also will have an impact on asymptomatic infections as well.
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Chief Roundup 12:38 PM 12-15-2020
So 14 people still got Covid even though they had taken the vaccine?
14 out of how many?
Did those 14 people not have the immune system response to the vaccine that builds the immunity?
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sedated 12:38 PM 12-15-2020
Apparently there is a new mutation of Covid that was discovered in southern England. I'm not too concerned about the effect on the vaccine, but wonder if it mutated (again) to be less severe.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...4v7?li=BBnb7Kz
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DaFace 12:39 PM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
So 14 people still got Covid even though they had taken the vaccine?
14 out of how many?
Did those 14 people not have the immune system response to the vaccine that builds the immunity?
14 out of 14,134

Note that that figure is just after the first dose, which is why they will be doing two doses.
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Rain Man 12:48 PM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
So 14 people still got Covid even though they had taken the vaccine?
14 out of how many?
Did those 14 people not have the immune system response to the vaccine that builds the immunity?
Originally Posted by DaFace:
14 out of 14,134

Note that that figure is just after the first dose, which is why they will be doing two doses.
I know nothing about this stuff, but it makes me curious. Of the people for whom the vaccination doesn't work, is it a genetic thing with them? Will it never work due to some reason that's biological?

Or is it that for some reason the injection didn't get administered properly (e.g., missed the vein or something), and a second injection will work?

Or could it be something else, like they got a vaccine that got left out of storage five minutes too long?
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DaFace 12:54 PM 12-15-2020
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I know nothing about this stuff, but it makes me curious. Of the people for whom the vaccination doesn't work, is it a genetic thing with them? Will it never work due to some reason that's biological?

Or is it that for some reason the injection didn't get administered properly (e.g., missed the vein or something), and a second injection will work?

Or could it be something else, like they got a vaccine that got left out of storage five minutes too long?
I know nothing really, but I have to imagine it's mostly the first one. I'd wonder if you could theoretically do even more doses and have it eventually create enough of an immune response to work, but that would be a lot of resources put toward 5% of people when herd immunity should theoretically do the trick eventually.
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