Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by loochy:
There is no need to be such an aloof dick...no need at all.
They mention Bell's Palsy...I mention someone who suffers from it...you start in on demeaning people. Why?
Because rates of incidence were nether statistically significant nor above what was found in the general population, meaning it was a non-issue, and bringing that shit up has the effect of spreading misinformation about the vaccine. There are plenty of places for you to shitpost if you desire. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Can't discriminate against someone on the basis of religion.
Sorry.
Nor would I ever suggest otherwise. How many people belong to a group that legitimately and truly believe in rejection of science and modern medical care? Wont accept medical care even if they are going to die? Lets give them 1/2 to 1 million members at best.
They have a right to their beliefs and we must respect that. No different from Nazi's marching down public streets. We may not like or agree with their views, but they have a right to them.
I was addressing the people who don't want to take the vaccine, which they also have a right to refuse. but want to use religion as a shield instead of their personal decision to avoid any negative blow back in their life's. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
You're underselling the complexity of developing vaccines for all diseases. They've tried and failed for HIV for 37 years now.
Good example. How many mRNA scientific studies have been done without a successful return of data on curing HIV? No idea but its a good assumption that its more than a handful. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Because rates of incidence were nether statistically significant nor above what was found in the general population, meaning it was a non-issue, and bringing that shit up has the effect of spreading misinformation about the vaccine. There are plenty of places for you to shitpost if you desire.
I shouldn't shitpost in a thread chock full of know-it-alls in the Lounge of a football team forum known for telling people to die in a fire and drink anti freeze? I think you may take this CP experience a bit too seriously. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Because rates of incidence were nether statistically significant nor above what was found in the general population, meaning it was a non-issue, and bringing that shit up has the effect of spreading misinformation about the vaccine. There are plenty of places for you to shitpost if you desire.
And you wonder why he called you an aloof dick? [Reply]
Originally Posted by loochy:
I shouldn't shitpost in a thread chock full of know-it-alls in the Lounge of a football team forum known for telling people to die in a fire and drink anti freeze? I think you may take this CP experience a bit too seriously.
There's a time and a place to shitpost. This is not either of them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by arrowheadnation:
I will laugh my ass off if they require it to enter stadiums, arenas, movie theaters, etc. Force some of these anti-vax hippie's to chose between fun and their own stupidity.
You wish socially imposed misery on people and wonder why they're not altruistic towards your interests? [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I am not defending loochy but you need to get over yourself.
I think we are all frustrated and we can finally see the finish line and vaccines could get us there but misinformation is why people won’t get the vaccine thus fucking things up . [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
I think we are all frustrated and we can finally see the finish line and vaccines could get us there but misinformation is why people won’t get the vaccine thus ****ing things up .
Dude you wanna talk about misinformation? Just over a month ago you had certain elected leaders talking about they wouldn't take the vaccine because it was "rushed". When really what they meant was "because Trump was President and we don't want him to be". Now that he isn't those same people are now saying everyone needs to get their arm stuck.
But that's just political bullshit. There are people who are not anti-vaxers and actually work in health care that don't want the vaccine yet. It has nothing to do with misinformation. These are people that support wearing masks and social distancing and just don't want to take the vaccine because they don't trust it right now.
But see this is the problem with the likes of people such as yourself. You want to pigeon hole everything to your view. People get sick because "they didn't wear a mask", which us arguably bullshit but that's your knee-jerk reaction. Then it's "well they didn't wear them properly" and so on and so on. Because it just has to be what you think.
Now you are already starting this shit with vaccines. Well misinformation may prevent some but a lot of informed people simply don't want it at this time. A good chunk of doctors and nurses don't want it right now. Are they just misinformed?
No. They just aren't doing what you want and you just want to have some simple reason as to why they aren't. Just like with everything else with this shit.
So just like people who wear masks all the time can still get Covid, informed people can still not want to take the vaccine. [Reply]
And this is simple...the vaccine is changing the paradigm. The days of blaming others for not doing what you want are coming to an end.
Get the vaccine and :-). If someone else doesn't get then that's their problem. You got the vaccine so live your life and let others live theirs. You no longer need to worry about what someone else is or isn't doing. [Reply]
