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Nzoner's Game Room>Mahomes is 15 TDs away from passing Aikman
petegz28 07:47 AM 07-02-2022

Crazy Stat: Patrick Mahomes could throw 15 touchdowns the rest of his career and still finish with more career touchdown passes than Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman.

Note: Mahomes has played in 102 less games. pic.twitter.com/YzE4B34Xh2

— Sea of Red Nation (@seaofrednation) July 1, 2022

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Hammock Parties 01:02 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
Alvin Harper says "hi" same with Novacek
wut?

absolute nobodies before/after aikman
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ThaVirus 01:11 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
They are not equally important. You are essentially saying that a QB who missed on one 50 yard pass performed as well as a QB who completed five 10 yard passes.
YPA is actually averaged off of yards gained.

So in your example, the QB who attempted and missed on one 50 yard pass would have a statline of 0/1 for 0 yards which equals out to 0 YPA and 0 YPC. The other one would be 5/5 for 50 yards which equals out to 10 YPA and 10 YPC.

YPA and YPC are both tied together. Ideally, your QB's YPA will be somewhere above 7. The more elite QBs will hover closer to (if not above) 8.
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AdolfOliverBush 01:23 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
not what that stat means at all

learn football

you never watched troy, i know that much
Neither his YPC or YPA were special.

I was stuck living in Dallas during their 90s Super Bowl runs, and saw most of the games. It's no exaggeration to claim that Aikman was their greatest weakness on offense. If he wasn't, I'd like to know who was.
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Hammock Parties 01:30 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Neither his YPC or YPA were special.
Aikman YPA rankings:

1991 4th
1992 8th
1993 2nd
1994 2nd
1995 4th

he was elite
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AdolfOliverBush 01:36 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Aikman YPA rankings:

1991 4th
1992 8th
1993 2nd
1994 2nd
1995 4th

he was elite
He was above average. Barely.

He was also the weakest link in the Cowboys offense during their SB runs.
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Mile High Mania 01:41 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
He was above average. Barely.

He was also the weakest link in the Cowboys offense during their SB runs.
And, there's another way to look at it... with Smith, Irvin and probably 5 others on the OL and Defense, many fans would have easily said "we'll take those guys without Aikman" compared to losing any of them with Aikman behind center.

Trent Green was better.
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Hammock Parties 01:46 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
He was above average. Barely.
elite arm
elite accuracy
elite results
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Hammock Parties 01:48 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
Trent Green was better.
no he wasn't

trent's deep ball was one of the ugliest fucking things you ever saw

flat, no arc, and if he didn't put his whole body into it, good luck

aikman had one of those arms you only saw once every 5 years in the draft
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Mile High Mania 01:49 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
elite arm
elite accuracy
elite results
You sure do have a sports boner for Aikman... guess you were a Cowboys fan before KC, eh? Of all the QBs to sport wood for, you choose Aikman. Nice.
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AdolfOliverBush 01:53 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
elite arm
elite accuracy
elite results
No
No
and thanks to the team around him.

If not Aikman, who was the weakest link on those Cowboys offenses?
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Hammock Parties 01:58 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
If not Aikman, who was the weakest link on those Cowboys offenses?
#2 WR...they never really had one...or a slot receiver for that matter

it is complete ignorance to say Aikman did not have an elite arm and elite accuracyhe went #1 overall...
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AdolfOliverBush 02:04 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
#2 WR...they never really had one...or a slot receiver for that matter

it is complete ignorance to say Aikman did not have an elite arm and elite accuracyhe went #1 overall...
Alex Smith went #1 overall too.

So the only guys on offense who were weaker links was the #2 WR, and a non-existent slot receiver that they didn't need at all? That's certainly not typical of an "elite" QB.
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Hammock Parties 02:07 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Alex Smith went #1 overall too.
for different reasons - completely different type of QB

Originally Posted by :
So the only guys on offense who were weaker links was the #2 WR, and a non-existent slot receiver that they didn't need at all? That's certainly not typical of an "elite" QB.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

TROY AIKMAN COULD THROW A BALL THROUGH A BRICK WALL AND IT WOULD HIS HIS RECEIVER IN THE HANDS BLIND
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AdolfOliverBush 02:12 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
for different reasons - completely different type of QB



YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

TROY AIKMAN COULD THROW A BALL THROUGH A BRICK WALL AND IT WOULD HIS HIS RECEIVER IN THE HANDS BLIND
He knew how to handle balls, for sure. But hey, at least he was more valuable to the offense than Alvin Harper. :-)
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Mile High Mania 02:14 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
#2 WR...they never really had one...or a slot receiver for that matter

it is complete ignorance to say Aikman did not have an elite arm and elite accuracyhe went #1 overall...
Lots of QBs have gone #1 overall.

Aikman was a good QB, I don't disagree with that... and he played on an amazingly stacked team. They didn't lose games because of Aikman, so he's go that going for him. I'm sure he was responsible for a number of their wins because of a great play.

But, Aikman is not one of the greats of his or any era.
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