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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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BossChief 05:30 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
I wonder if Watson will make it to 50?
I bet he makes it to 62…
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staylor26 06:13 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I bet he makes it to 62…
Ha no fucking way.
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BossChief 06:40 PM 03-30-2022
This is trading down multiple times to accumulate picks and still get talent. Ended with a total of 18 picks…

35. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
38. Boye Mafe EDGE Minnesota
47. Perrion Winfrey DT Oklahoma
66. Myjae Sanders EDGE Cincinnati
67. Jalen Tolbert WR South Alabama
78. Isaiah Thomas EDGE Oklahoma
94. Calvin Austin III WR Memphis
97. Jalyn Armour-Davis CB Alabama
99. James Cook RB Georgia
103. Quay Walker LB Georgia
113. Mario Goodrich CB Clemson
121. Troy Andersen LB Montana State
177. Bryan Cook S Cincinnati
181. Max Mitchell OT Louisiana
189. Grant Calcaterra TE SMU
233. Logan Bruss OT Wisconsin
243. Dylan Parham OG Memphis
251. Noah Elliss
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BossChief 06:45 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Ha no fucking way.
Someone’s going to fall in love with his upside but a lot of teams will be scared off because of his floor. It will be interesting to see where he goes. Ya never know, Jacksonville might take him at the top! :-)
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The Franchise 07:10 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by BossChief:
This is trading down multiple times to accumulate picks and still get talent. Ended with a total of 18 picks…

35. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
38. Boye Mafe EDGE Minnesota
47. Perrion Winfrey DT Oklahoma
66. Myjae Sanders EDGE Cincinnati
67. Jalen Tolbert WR South Alabama
78. Isaiah Thomas EDGE Oklahoma
94. Calvin Austin III WR Memphis
97. Jalyn Armour-Davis CB Alabama
99. James Cook RB Georgia
103. Quay Walker LB Georgia
113. Mario Goodrich CB Clemson
121. Troy Andersen LB Montana State
177. Bryan Cook S Cincinnati
181. Max Mitchell OT Louisiana
189. Grant Calcaterra TE SMU
233. Logan Bruss OT Wisconsin
243. Dylan Parham OG Memphis
251. Noah Elliss
Just stop. Your mocks are getting more ridiculous by the day.
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BossChief 07:26 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Just stop. Your mocks are getting more ridiculous by the day.
I’m just having fun doing these with different angles. If you don’t enjoy them, scroll over them. This is a mock draft thread, though…so, I think I’ll continue to have fun with it.

We’re going into the draft with 12 picks snd only 22 players signed for 2023…I can definitely see scenarios with Veach moving down a time or 2 to accumulate picks in a draft with lots of depth at a few key positions and it’s fun to explore what that looks like in a hypothetical world.
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DJ's left nut 09:41 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
That kind of goes with the zag when they zig philosophy we’ve been talking about.

If those two make it there, it’s simply because everybody in front of us was looking for an immediate impact.

Ok, thanks rest of the NFL!

You’ve now allowed us to continue playing the longer game here and get two top 15-20 talents at 29/30.

And we still have 4 more picks in rounds 2-4.

Thanks guys!
And we'd still have, at worst, a punchers chance in the West.

And if you can come out of the West, you can win the AFC.

And if you can win the AFC...

Playing the long game would be a no-brainer.
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Chris Meck 05:46 AM 03-31-2022
Drake London? More like Kelvin Benjamin, AMIRIGHT!?
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kccrow 06:23 AM 03-31-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Drake London? More like Kelvin Benjamin, AMIRIGHT!?
I'm very much not high on London. Same opinion. Looks slow on tape, thin for a guy that's going to have to compete for the ball. Meh. Has bust written all over him.
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CatfishBob2 06:37 AM 03-31-2022
Kelvin Benjamin with the right attitude would be a weapon
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Chris Meck 06:59 AM 03-31-2022
Originally Posted by CatfishBob2:
Kelvin Benjamin with the right attitude would be a weapon
In a bar fight, yeah.
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Chris Meck 07:02 AM 03-31-2022
running mocks on all of the different sites, I can always end up with a combination of Ojabo/Mafe/Thomas/S.Williams paired with Watson/Pierce/Moore in those first two rounds.

Could you imagine Watson AND Pierce? With Mahomes? And a bookend of good pass rushers for the next 4-5 years?
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The Franchise 07:26 AM 03-31-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
running mocks on all of the different sites, I can always end up with a combination of Ojabo/Mafe/Thomas/S.Williams paired with Watson/Pierce/Moore in those first two rounds.

Could you imagine Watson AND Pierce? With Mahomes? And a bookend of good pass rushers for the next 4-5 years?
It would be a nice draft but I just don’t see Veach going DE, DE, WR and WR with the first four picks.
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CatfishBob2 07:41 AM 03-31-2022
Prime Kelvin Benjamin was the best WR Cam Newton ever had besides Steve Smith. Speed doesn't attract me as much as strong hands do.

I'd like to see a combination of a power rusher and speed edge rusher this draft maybe like a Walker or Karlaftis/Williams or Mafe/Paschal
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Chris Meck 07:54 AM 03-31-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Ha no ****ing way.
No. It'd be risky to wait to #50 if you want him.

BUT: in every simulation I've run on all of the different sites, either Watson OR Pierce is there at #60. Never both.

I think they're similar players; Watson with more upside, Pierce with a higher floor.

I don't think I'd wait if one of them was the guy you wanted.
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