Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I still can't figure out why Chief Fans seemed to LOVE Kinnard so much.
Because he's big and mean and he DID dominate at the highest level of college football. I mean he was absolutely killing guys in the SEC - that's not nothing.
There's ability there, but he was obviously extremely raw. And ultimately it's possible his feet just keep him from playing outside. But with his length and aggression, and the Chiefs seemingly interested in finding big, strong, mean offensive linemen, it seemed like he had a shot.
But you never know how a guy transitions until the pads come on and it's clear his transition will be longer than most. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Because he's big and mean and he DID dominate at the highest level of college football. I mean he was absolutely killing guys in the SEC - that's not nothing.
There's ability there, but he was obviously extremely raw. And ultimately it's possible his feet just keep him from playing outside. But with his length and aggression, and the Chiefs seemingly interested in finding big, strong, mean offensive linemen, it seemed like he had a shot.
But you never know how a guy transitions until the pads come on and it's clear his transition will be longer than most.
He always looks to me like he has some trouble with balance/his base. Of course, so does OBJ. He looks unbalanced until he doesn't, which is right when he needs to be. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I didn’t watch a ton, but Malik Willis looked surprisingly good IMO.
A long way from closing the book on his development, but I was surprised how good he looked.
Will some fucking NFC team, any NFC team pick up something, anything for talent? The fucks.
Right?
The NFC has 3 absolute joke conference and it's hard to tell if the NFC South or East is the worst of the lot.
All 4 teams out of the west could be favored to win either of those. The Bucs and Cowboys are quality teams but hardly world-beaters. Beyond them you have some of the worst teams/organizations in the NFL. I guess the Eagles being a decent little dark-horse if Hurts is legit puts the East ahead of the South. The South, with the Panthers, Saints and Falcons, may be the worst trio of teams I've ever seen in a single division. And hell, with the Vikings, Lions and Bears in the North, they're not worlds better than the East.
The AFC is just freakin' loaded while the NFC just continues to atrophy. [Reply]
Seahawks draft looks quite good. Cross, Mafe and Abraham all look good.
But holy mother of fucking God are they stupid. They took a RB in the first rd a few years ago and it was a disaster. Oh hey let’s take another one at pick 41 bc our offense is based in 1990.
If they take Willis there they might have the best draft in the league. Like he was so perfect to replace Russell Wilson but they said (yes they said this) that Lock was better than all these QB’s.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Seahawks draft looks quite good. Cross, Mafe and Abraham all look good.
But holy mother of fucking God are they stupid. They took a RB in the first rd a few years ago and it was a disaster. Oh hey let’s take another one at pick 41 bc our offense is based in 1990.
If they take Willis there they might have the best draft in the league. Like he was so perfect to replace Russell Wilson but they said (yes they said this) that Lock was better than all these QB’s.
Yikes
Other than putting together that initial legion of boom defense they’ve been criminally bad. [Reply]
It's also partly because he WAS evaluated by a lot of people as a decent guard prospect and worthy of a higher pick as a result. Combine that with the tendency for a few voices to dominate with the "every pick is genius, God-level work, no other teams spot talent" and it snowballs.
The number of people laughing at any suggestion he could be a guard not a tackle in the NFL because he'd played tackle at college. I mean, sure, but look at the footwork, and listen to where evaluators were expecting him to play. It's not everything but it's not nothing. He was never a R2-3 tackle prospect. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
It's also partly because he WAS evaluated by a lot of people as a decent guard prospect and worthy of a higher pick as a result. Combine that with the tendency for a few voices to dominate with the "every pick is genius, God-level work, no other teams spot talent" and it snowballs.
The number of people laughing at any suggestion he could be a guard not a tackle in the NFL because he'd played tackle at college. I mean, sure, but look at the footwork, and listen to where evaluators were expecting him to play. It's not everything but it's not nothing. He was never a R2-3 tackle prospect.
Agree with this. He was a great-looking guard prospect to me with an outside chance to be an RT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Agree with this. He was a great-looking guard prospect to me with an outside chance to be an RT.
Still hopeful he makes it as, at the very least, a decent rotational IL guy. But that is a very different proposition to the "we've got a starting RT from a R5 pick" take.
As an aside I don't know why it annoys me but the feverish optimism in some quarters grinds my gears as much as the downers. Let's just take a breath. I liked a lot of this draft but there will be whiffs and mistakes just like every draft. [Reply]
Random non-Chiefs who stood out watching the first two preseason games.
Pickens and Pickett for Pittsburgh. Pickett looks like a 5 yr vet. Pickens looks like he's gonna be the star most of us expected, but maybe even sooner.
Mafe and Travis Jones are both more athletic than I expected, and I loved Jones and wanted us to pick him.
Khalil Shakir, Isaiah Likely, and Doubs all look impressive. I liked Doubs in the draft, didn't watch enough film on Shakir or Likely to have an opinion.
Drake Jackson looks big. And good. Kaiir Elam also looked good. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
Random non-Chiefs who stood out watching the first two preseason games.
Pickens and Pickett for Pittsburgh. Pickett looks like a 5 yr vet. Pickens looks like he's gonna be the star most of us expected, but maybe even sooner.
Mafe and Travis Jones are both more athletic than I expected, and I loved Jones and wanted us to pick him.
Khalil Shakir, Isaiah Likely, and Doubs all look impressive. I liked Doubs in the draft, didn't watch enough film on Shakir or Likely to have an opinion.
Drake Jackson looks big. And good. Kaiir Elam also looked good.
I feel like the Jones non-pick is going to haunt me a bit. Was really hoping we'd grab him. Ah well. Shame Elam is looking good, was sort of hoping he'd flop to make the McDuffie trade up even more gratifying.
I wasn't mad on Mafe so maybe I got that one wrong. I liked Sakur and Doubs and usually doubled up on WR in mocks and took one. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
Random non-Chiefs who stood out watching the first two preseason games.
Pickens and Pickett for Pittsburgh. Pickett looks like a 5 yr vet. Pickens looks like he's gonna be the star most of us expected, but maybe even sooner.
Mafe and Travis Jones are both more athletic than I expected, and I loved Jones and wanted us to pick him.
Khalil Shakir, Isaiah Likely, and Doubs all look impressive. I liked Doubs in the draft, didn't watch enough film on Shakir or Likely to have an opinion.
Drake Jackson looks big. And good. Kaiir Elam also looked good.
My sleeper looking like he should have went far earlier.
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
Good call. Shakir wasn't on my radar at all tbh. I totally whiffed on that one, he's looked really nice in both preseason games.
He reminded me of Godwin coming out the way he attacks the ball in the air.
Overall comp was Robert Woods.
If he hits as well as Woods that's a STEAL in the 5th. [Reply]