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ShiftyEyedWaterboy 02:35 PM 06-08-2019
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I wasn’t posting it to give credence or solid science etc. but showing that it’s blowing up globally. Articles, meme’s, YouTube vids, podcast etc. people want more. Way bigger in Europe than here so far but word of mouth here in the USA is catching it up in popularity.

Russia hurrying to make its own version tells you all about its popularity. Putin cares about some western TV series because of its popularity in Europe. Makes them look bad.
Gotcha. It makes me think of that Russian guy analyzing every episode on twitter. He mentioned the Russian national obsession with not being humiliated and being obsessed with what other countries think of them. Can't let this go without their own version.
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mikeyis4dcats. 08:21 AM 06-08-2019
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
the simple fact that the author was too stupid to notice the chopper hit the crane means I won't trust anything they say.
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ShiftyEyedWaterboy 02:38 PM 06-08-2019
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
the simple fact that the author was too stupid to notice the chopper hit the crane means I won't trust anything they say.
Yeah, I thought I saw an article that confirmed that happened and radiation may have played a role in dazing the pilot. I'll have to do some more research.
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Fishpicker 11:16 PM 06-08-2019
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
the simple fact that the author was too stupid to notice the chopper hit the crane means I won't trust anything they say.
i couldn't tell what happened after watching that sequence several times

Originally Posted by Fishpicker:
can someone explain to me why the first helicopters' rotors flew off when it went over and then away from the core?
I dont think you have room to talk seeing as how you couldn't get a tweet to display
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BigRedChief 08:36 AM 06-09-2019
Originally Posted by Fishpicker:
i couldn't tell what happened after watching that sequence several times
I didn't know any of the details about Chernobyl before this series, or I forgot them.

I thought the chopper went down somehow due to radiation. They should have done a better job showing it hitting a cable. After that episode, I started listening to the podcast and they admitted it gave off that impression and that wasn't their intention.
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mikeyis4dcats. 03:12 PM 06-10-2019
Originally Posted by Fishpicker:
i couldn't tell what happened after watching that sequence several times
really?


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kcpasco 08:56 AM 06-08-2019
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
WTF is this? I never thought the show was trying to say radiation is contagious like a disease but rather the spread of contamination and nuclear fallout is real. And radiation most definitely is extremely harmful to a fetus. There is a reason the dosage allowed for pregnant women is much lower.
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Baby Lee 02:02 PM 06-08-2019
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
WTF is this? I never thought the show was trying to say radiation is contagious like a disease but rather the spread of contamination and nuclear fallout is real. And radiation most definitely is extremely harmful to a fetus. There is a reason the dosage allowed for pregnant women is much lower.
I couple mild criticisms endure.

The first might be more charitably be called a false impression that is allowed to linger more than an active misinformation campaign. Given the successful effort at containment, there wasn't enough stressed about how radiation poisoning is particulate and proximity dependant. If the explosion had resulted in a massive loss of containment of radioactive material, such as leeching into the water supply, there would have a been a grave regional danger of widespread effects. But alpha particle emission begins and ends pretty much with the material itself. It doesn't spread like a virus. You don't carry around alpha particles like you do ebola. The material emits the particle, and it strikes living tissue or it doesn't resulting in cellular damage or not, end of story. If the material doesn't travel on a jetstream, or enter a water supply, all that's left to spread is that physically carried off on clothing and equipment.

The second, is a little more nefarious. I understand the drive to craft a narrative, but the loading of the 'intrepid discovery' of the control rod tip limitation, while important, was not the overwhelming flaw of the entire saga, nor the closely held secret the narrative suggests. RMBK had myriad design and paradigm flaws. Positive feedback is and has been for a long time an ENORMOUS red flag in critical systems. The lack of training was an abysmal societal failure. Mistraining about the foolproof nature of the failsafe due to the control rod limitation was indeed unforgiveable, but the entire thing, from RMBK design to training to oversight was all a perfect storm that had been simmering for years. There were plenty of people who, if asked at the time, would have nominated a site like Chernobyl as the most likely to result in . . . Chernobyl, due to known and clamored shortcomings. It wasn't some big surprise that hinged on a single suppressed failure study. That was just a little too neat a thesis in the end.
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kcpasco 02:25 PM 06-08-2019
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
I couple mild criticisms endure.

The first might be more charitably be called a false impression that is allowed to linger more than an active misinformation campaign. Given the successful effort at containment, there wasn't enough stressed about how radiation poisoning is particulate and proximity dependant. If the explosion had resulted in a massive loss of containment of radioactive material, such as leeching into the water supply, there would have a been a grave regional danger of widespread effects. But alpha particle emission begins and ends pretty much with the material itself. It doesn't spread like a virus. You don't carry around alpha particles like you do ebola. The material emits the particle, and it strikes living tissue or it doesn't resulting in cellular damage or not, end of story. If the material doesn't travel on a jetstream, or enter a water supply, all that's left to spread is that physically carried off on clothing and equipment.
Yes it was dramatized but I think the idea was the firefighter ingested so much radioactive material that you couldn’t stand next to him without receiving a major dose. You could wash him and scrub him down head to toe but you can’t remove the graphite dust he ingested. Alpha can also be shielded by a piece of paper.

I work at the Hanford site. You should google the McCluskey incident that happened in the 70’s. His family wasn’t allowed around him for some time. But I’m not an RCT, so definitely not an expert.
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Frazod 07:08 PM 06-07-2019
Originally Posted by ShiftyEyedWaterboy:
Russia to air their own version now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...sian-tv-remake
Holy shit, that's pathetic. :-)
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BigRedChief 07:45 PM 06-07-2019
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Holy shit, that's pathetic. :-)
it was a CIA spy that caused the meltdown? :-)
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notorious 07:14 PM 06-07-2019
Holy Shit. Keep lying you pieces of shit.


I thought the HBO series did an excellent job showing how heroic the Russian people were. I don't think any other country could have pulled the cleanup off. (Well, maybe China or Japan)
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Miles 07:42 PM 06-07-2019
Originally Posted by notorious:
Holy Shit. Keep lying you pieces of shit.


I thought the HBO series did an excellent job showing how heroic the Russian people were. I don't think any other country could have pulled the cleanup off. (Well, maybe China or Japan)
I thought the same. They portrayed all of the responders and liquidators as quite heroic of putting the greater good above everything.
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lewdog 01:37 PM 06-08-2019
Watching this made me hate the Soviets almost as much as I hate Canadians.
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kcpasco 06-08-2019, 11:08 PM
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