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Humphrey grew up watching the Sooners and wrestling like his father, Chad, who grappled at the University of Central Oklahoma. The first-team all-state pick at Shawnee High School redshirted in 2017 before taking over the starting center spot in 12 of 14 games played in 2018, when he earned Freshman All-American and honorable mention All-Big 12 honors while helping the front five win the Joe Moore Award as the nation's top offensive line. Humphrey sat out spring 2019 practices due to injury but was ready for the fall, garnering Rimington Trophy finalist, second-team Associated Press All-American and Big 12 Co-Offensive Lineman of the Year accolades as a 14-game starter. The 2020 team captain and 11-game starter was named a third-team AP All-American, Big 12 Offensive Lineman of the Year and first-team all-conference center as a junior. He accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. -- by Chad Reuter
Overview
Savvy, game-wise center with below-average length, good core strength and a full slate of intangibles desired at that position. Humphrey is praised inside the building for his outstanding leadership and having the recognition to make all the calls up front. He's more of a positional blocker than fork-lifter but has the core strength to neutralize and stalemate blockers at the point of attack. He's not a plus athlete but he's athletic enough as a move blocker, with the ability to work his feet into position to finish blocks after contact. He plays with a nasty streak when needed, which will appeal to offensive line coaches, but his overall profile might be more "steady" than "star." Humphrey is a solid, safe selection and should become a longtime starter.
Strengths
Three-year starter and two-year team captain.
Undeniable team leader and tough individual.
Wrestling background is evident in core strength.
Strong hands help maintain base block.
Looks to work hands into position after losing battle early.
Swings hips into position to seal the block.
Fluid footwork for short-pull game.
Finishes blocks with good intensity.
Technique to trap and pancake leaning nose.
Hands in punch were tighter and more accurate at Senior Bowl.
Helps with cleanup when teammates' protection gets leaky.
Capable in recovery mode.
Weaknesses
Very short arms for his size, allowing defenders to get shots into his frame.
Longer defenders separate and discard him.
Will give some early ground against strong bull rush.
Occasional drift against twisting fronts.
Susceptible against push-pull specialists.
Snap-to-step lateral quickness is average.
Doesn't generate noticeable push as a drive blocker at point of attack.
Gets a little grabby through contact on the move.
Sources Tell Us
"He was the best offensive lineman on the team when they won the Joe Moore Award (best offensive line in college football) and that line had everybody drafted, which speaks volumes for his ability." -- Southwest area scout for AFC team
Originally Posted by Kman34:
Anytime Patrick has to take his eyes off the defense to field a grounder isn’t good.. Maybe we win in regulation if that snap was better..
Thank goodness the low snaps did not cost the game. You never know how it will go when you put the ball in harm’s way like that. Mahomes did a hell of a job to avoid turnovers on those plays. [Reply]
I'm torn about what they do with Creed. I love Creed and want him to stay. But it just hasn't been the M.O. for the Chiefs in the Reid era. Hudson was an all pro center. He walked when the Faiders made him the highest paid center in the NFL. But the Chiefs drafted Morse and he stepped right in and played well. He has a concussion history but the Bills still made him the highest paid center in the NFL. The Chiefs then signed a journeyman center to replace him. We won a Superbowl and lost one. After the loss, the Chiefs rebuilt the offensive line, including drafting Creed in the second round. Creed has had a great career and will no doubt command the highest salary in the NFL in his next contract. I don't think that the Chiefs will have flexibility to pay it, and based on their history, they would be justified in letting him walk. As much as I and others would hate to see it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
It all comes down to when he's a FA, do you pay a center $15+mil a year in this offense?
I’m no expert on team building but we may just do that given the fact that Thuney and Kelce are likely about to age out. We don’t pay RBs big money and we don’t have any WRs worth big money.
The only people on our offense with large contracts here in two, three years may just be Mahomes and Jawaan Taylor. If so, maybe we decide it’s a good idea to keep Humphrey. [Reply]
Creed and Trey are both on the last year of their rookie deals. One of them will get a second contract. Creed is the better player, but is a terrible snapper. He is a long-term guard. Which means that they need a center.
He also suggests that Creed could move to guard since he struggles with his snaps so much. I wonder if this may be similar to butker and his struggles with XPs last year. He worked through it and was perfect this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I laughed so hard at this, he rolled the fuckin snap to me!
Look MFer, he rolled the fucking snap to me.
I am not a huge baseball fan outside of the Royals, and Ohtani (can't help it, he smiles all the time, throws 100, and hits 475 foot dingers) but I watch a lot of Jomboy clips. [Reply]
Creed and Trey are both on the last year of their rookie deals. One of them will get a second contract. Creed is the better player, but is a terrible snapper. He is a long-term guard. Which means that they need a center.
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Were the bad snaps a problem during the regular season? Last year in the playoffs? If they were, were they as bad as the AFCC and the SB this year?
If they weren't noticeable enough to complain about before the last two games, I think you trust him to get that fixed back to the way they used to be and just call this one a fluke.
Also, how great is it that I have to specify which Super Bowl I'm talking about? God I love my life.
They were terrible in the Super Bowl last year. No one remembers it because Mahomes is God and didn't let it become a problem. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jjchieffan:
I'm torn about what they do with Creed. I love Creed and want him to stay. But it just hasn't been the M.O. for the Chiefs in the Reid era. Hudson was an all pro center. He walked when the Faiders made him the highest paid center in the NFL. But the Chiefs drafted Morse and he stepped right in and played well. He has a concussion history but the Bills still made him the highest paid center in the NFL. The Chiefs then signed a journeyman center to replace him. We won a Superbowl and lost one. After the loss, the Chiefs rebuilt the offensive line, including drafting Creed in the second round. Creed has had a great career and will no doubt command the highest salary in the NFL in his next contract. I don't think that the Chiefs will have flexibility to pay it, and based on their history, they would be justified in letting him walk. As much as I and others would hate to see it.
BUT CREED IS GOOD, PAY HIM TOP DOLLAR, HOW IS THIS EVEN A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol
For real though, it does suck letting good players walk, but it's realistic due to the salary cap.... something facebook fans don't seem to have a clue about.
OMG CHIEFS R SO DUMB< PAY CHRIS JONES AND SNEED NOW! CHEAP CLARK HUNT!!!!!! SO CHEAP AND DUMB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
For real though, it does suck letting good players walk, but it's realistic due to the salary cap.... something facebook fans don't seem to have a clue about.
But it is realistic to talk about cutting a Pro Bowl center to save $1.5 million on the cap? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
BUT CREED IS GOOD, PAY HIM TOP DOLLAR, HOW IS THIS EVEN A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol
For real though, it does suck letting good players walk, but it's realistic due to the salary cap.... something facebook fans don't seem to have a clue about.
OMG CHIEFS R SO DUMB< PAY CHRIS JONES AND SNEED NOW! CHEAP CLARK HUNT!!!!!! SO CHEAP AND DUMB.
You're allowed to pay guys and not kill the salary cap.
It's just a matter of paying the right guys. The debate here is whether Creed is the right guy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jamie:
But it is realistic to talk about cutting a Pro Bowl center to save $1.5 million on the cap?
I'd entertain a trade for sure. Maybe some team is hungry for a young solid center with superbowl experience and think they can fix his snap problems.
If nothing happens, you get him for 1 more year on the cheap, then you have to let him walk. But in no way would I say to myself, "damn we HAVE to pay Creed the money he may generate on the open market". And Creed is dumb if he doesn't chase the money at his age... this is his time to get it.
Luckily we have Burt veach who does the right things. [Reply]
