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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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Coochie liquor 04:31 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Manning played with Brady, Brees and Rodgers and was often considered the best of all of them.
In the regular season. Dude was a huge playoff choker. Dude had 16 playoff games where he threw 1 or less TDs, and 9 where he threw more than 1.
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ThaVirus 04:39 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
In the regular season. Dude was a huge playoff choker. Dude had 16 playoff games where he threw 1 or less TDs, and 9 where he threw more than 1.
For sure. He didnít elevate his play when he got to the postseason like a Mahomes, Brady or Montana.

Still.. he was pretty unanimously considered a top 3 QB of all-time when he retired so I donít think itís fair to say Mahomes is way past him.
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ptlyon 04:43 PM 05-26-2024
He's regarded in that group because of two things:

1. His namesake
2. Yellow flags
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Pepe Silvia 04:44 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
In the regular season. Dude was a huge playoff choker. Dude had 16 playoff games where he threw 1 or less TDs, and 9 where he threw more than 1.
Manning wasn't very good at dealing with adversity.
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ThaVirus 05:09 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by ptlyon:
He's regarded in that group because of two things:

1. His namesake
2. Yellow flags
Lol.. he retired the all time leader in passing yards, passing TDs, 4th quarter comebacks and league MVPs but sure, bud.
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ThaVirus 05:12 PM 05-26-2024
I just looked it up and this fucker played nearly 20 years, a great deal of those years before the changes in rules that benefitted passing, and still has higher YPA than Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. That is seriously impressive.

He still holds the record for most passing yards and TDs in a single season as well. A record he set a few years after suffering a career-ending injury.

I know it’s cool to hate the dude after his stint with the Broncos but the bad man can’t hurt us anymore. It’s OK to give him his flowers.
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smithandrew051 05:25 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I just looked it up and this fucker played nearly 20 years, a great deal of those years before the changes in rules that benefitted passing, and still has higher YPA than Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. That is seriously impressive.

He still holds the record for most passing yards and TDs in a single season as well. A record he set a few years after suffering a career-ending injury.

I know itís cool to hate the dude after his stint with the Broncos but the bad man canít hurt us anymore. Itís OK to give him his flowers.
He was great. No doubt about that.

Iím just saying there isnít a strong argument to have him ahead of Mahomes.

Mahomes is on pace to beat everything Manning did in the regular season. Mahomes has already eclipsed everything Manning did in the postseason, which imo matters more.
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Pitt Gorilla 05:25 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I just looked it up and this ****er played nearly 20 years, a great deal of those years before the changes in rules that benefitted passing, and still has higher YPA than Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. That is seriously impressive.

He still holds the record for most passing yards and TDs in a single season as well. A record he set a few years after suffering a career-ending injury.

I know itís cool to hate the dude after his stint with the Broncos but the bad man canít hurt us anymore. Itís OK to give him his flowers.
Regular season stats and wins are cool.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 06:32 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
i just love that we get to see shit like this constantly now

Yeah stuff like this i think brings me the most amount of pride. Anytime anyone brings up the great QBs of the past, Mahomes will be right there, and everyone will remember the Chiefs as the team of 2020's.
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InChiefsHeaven 07:15 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Yeah stuff like this i think brings me the most amount of pride. Anytime anyone brings up the great QBs of the past, Mahomes will be right there, and everyone will remember the Chiefs as the team of 2020's.
Best part...No Aikman, no ELWAY on that list.

Life is good.
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Hammock Parties 07:22 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven:
Best part...No Aikman, no ELWAY on that list.

Life is good.
And there never will be.

We have killed the past.
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kysirsoze 07:23 PM 05-26-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I just looked it up and this fucker played nearly 20 years, a great deal of those years before the changes in rules that benefitted passing, and still has higher YPA than Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. That is seriously impressive.

He still holds the record for most passing yards and TDs in a single season as well. A record he set a few years after suffering a career-ending injury.

I know itís cool to hate the dude after his stint with the Broncos but the bad man canít hurt us anymore. Itís OK to give him his flowers.
He also elevated the already high importance of the quarterback position. He ran the entire offense with an OC that basically held a clipboard and a defensive head coach. He was at the forefront of pushing the NFL to be a overwhelmingly passing league by virtue of his play. The postseason stuff bites him for sure, but he was incredible. If Mahomes retired today, there's a strong argument that he's ahead of Manning, but it would be a good debate. In a few more years it's probably not close.
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FloridaMan88 09:03 PM 05-26-2024

Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and Hollywood Brown are in the building for Wolves-Mavs 🤩 pic.twitter.com/8CRyCYQoX1

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) May 27, 2024

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ThaVirus 07:26 AM 05-27-2024
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
He was great. No doubt about that.

Iím just saying there isnít a strong argument to have him ahead of Mahomes.

Mahomes is on pace to beat everything Manning did in the regular season. Mahomes has already eclipsed everything Manning did in the postseason, which imo matters more.
I suppose it depends on your criteria.

I am normally a huge ďpeakĒ guy so Mahomes does well in my rankings. His peak has matched any QB in history.

Still, itís hard to ignore Peytonís production over the course of his career. I think itíll take a few more years of elite production from Pat until Iíd comfortably put him over Manning.

Originally Posted by kysirsoze:
He also elevated the already high importance of the quarterback position. He ran the entire offense with an OC that basically held a clipboard and a defensive head coach. He was at the forefront of pushing the NFL to be a overwhelmingly passing league by virtue of his play. The postseason stuff bites him for sure, but he was incredible. If Mahomes retired today, there's a strong argument that he's ahead of Manning, but it would be a good debate. In a few more years it's probably not close.
This is a good point. Iím pretty sure one of those defensive holding offseason rehauls around 2004 was specifically in response to the Patriots mugging his receivers in a postseason beatdown.
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Hammock Parties 11:23 AM 05-27-2024
upscaled some All 22 to 4K and it looks *really nice* clark


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