Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
You know how much I love Henderson -- I think I may have been first on him 'round here (you not withstanding as an Ohio State guy).
He's been my RB2 in the draft, at least for the Chiefs, the entire time.
But I just can't. I can't get there in the 1st round. It's dogmatic, I know. I just can't talk myself into it.
Have I taught you nothing by taking Jahmyr Gibbs in the CP mock 2 years ago?
:P
A 2,000-yard, 20 TD RB might not be what Henderson becomes, but he certainly might be a guy that can get you 1500-1700 regularly. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
LOL. I really like Etienne a lot. I think he has some serious potential in a similar role.
Just less of a true 3-down guy, right? You’d need to pair him with someone who can help shoulder the load, probably a less versatile receiving back with some umph for short-yardage, and make the offense a little more predictable based on personnel.
Henderson would present the opportunity to unlock the offense on all 3 downs… [Reply]
One thing about this sim - it doesn't seem to matter whether the slider is set to predictable or chaotic - I have pretty much the same options every time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Just less of a true 3-down guy, right? You’d need to pair him with someone who can help shoulder the load, probably a less versatile receiving back with some umph for short-yardage, and make the offense a little more predictable based on personnel.
Henderson would present the opportunity to unlock the offense on all 3 downs…
Etienne isn't much smaller than Henderson, but I don't know how much pounding he can do on first and second down. Henderson can't either, but I believe he can shoulder more of that load than Etienne. Henderson is a better player in all facets and has more experience than Etienne. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
That's totally fair. His size limitations probably cap his ceiling, right?
Size/length to be an every-down player, and his lack of experience is probably a hindrance. Ty Hamilton is a very similar player in the same range. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
LOL. I really like Etienne a lot. I think he has some serious potential in a similar role.
So let's game it.
I think we have to take Nolen and Harmon out of the equation for the sake of discussion, because I believe we are both in the camp that "In the unlikely event either of them fall to 31, you take him without blinking" right?
So we're really talking WR vs. RB.
Option A) Henderson and Dike/Lane
Option B) Burden and Etienne
I think I far prefer B.
And I know that's not an entirely fair exercise because you could obviously go WR in round 2 and get Noel, but the sort of shell gaming required for that makes a real comparison pretty tough.
The only real way to do it is to try the ceteris paribus game, take the pick previously used on a RB on a WR and the pick previously used on a WR on a RB.
Otherwise you're just playing around with the same argument I started with -- notably that I think the drafts tend to go a little better on balance when I attack the WR position in R1 with Burden or Egbuka. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Felt a little stuck at 95 but...sheesh.
I kinda like Parrish in that range. My concern is ultimately redundancy. He's a little undersized; makes me wonder if he can really operate on the boundary. McDuffie can while being a little shorter than ideal, but he's also just an awesome player.
Parrish is a hell of an athlete and can probably be a very good NCB...but that does take some of the starch out of the value of McDuffie locking down that slot himself. And puts him back out to boundary where he's merely very good instead of elite.
I think what I might prefer do is take Darien Porter at 63 instead of Burch, then Royals, then backfill with Kennard, Gillotte or Oladejo at 95.