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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>"Covid" Deaths Over-reported by 50%?
MahomesMagic 12:11 PM 06-06-2021

If confirmed, this would imply that Covid fatalities are over-reported by ~50%, since there have only been 286K Covid fatalities involving pneumonia.

Sample size of this study is very small but roughly in-line with the study from Alameda county which showed 25% overcount. https://t.co/VqfsGsiTXG

— PLC (@Humble_Analysis) June 6, 2021



"our detailed analyses might suggest that the SARS-CoV-2 spreading beyond the respiratory tract does not induce any major pathology…at least in fatal cases”

Multisystemic cellular tropism of SARS-CoV-2 in autopsies of COVID-19 patients
Dickson W.L. Wong, Barbara M. Klinkhammer, Sonja Djudjaj, Sophia Villwock, M. Cherelle Timm, Eva M. Buhl, Sophie Wucherpfennig, Claudio Cacchi, Till Braunschweig, Ruth Knüchel-Clarke, Danny Jonigk, Christopher Werlein, Roman D. Bülow, Edgar Dahl, Saskia von Stillfried, Peter Boor


Finally, apart from the lung, correlation of virus detection and histopathological assessment did not reveal any specific alterations that could be attributed to SARS-CoV-2. Conclusion: SARS-CoV-2 could be observed in virtually all organs, colocalizing with ACE2 and TMPRSS2 mainly in epithelial but also in mesenchymal and endothelial cells, and viral replication was found across all organ systems. Apart from the respiratory tract, no specific (histo-)morphologic alterations could be assigned to the SARS-CoV-2 infection.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....03.21258241v1
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Just Passin' By 06:59 PM 06-06-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
This guy gets it.
Everyone gets it. You seem to be missing the point people are trying to get across to you. Maybe if you read it in the NYT, you'll figure it out.


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NJChiefsFan27 11:55 PM 06-06-2021
Originally Posted by Raiderhader:
What you are failing to consider is that hospitals were shutting down all of their business that they possibly could to focus on covid. But, somehow, the evil American healthcare system that gouges the public requiring a national healthcare plan to save us from their greed is some how not going to try and take advantage of the extra covid money to make up for these losses…
So wait, you're pretending to adopt what you think is a leftist position on healthcare to justify your unhinged take on Covid being a scam by for profit healthcare providers? Fascinating stuff.

Originally Posted by :
That’s because you don’t understand who your own party is. Marxists don’t care about human life, as history has taught us over and over.


Originally Posted by :
A healthy, and in this case booming, economy only guaranteed The Donald’s re-election. That’s why the plan to ignore the established scientific and medical protocols of isolation were ditched in favor of [as close as could be realistically pulled off] quarantine protocols.

Those telling us to “follow the science” were (are) the ones ignoring it. But I’m not supposed to view this entire thing as a diabolical election year plot… Ok.

The ginned up Russia scandal made Watergate gate look like child’s play by comparison. This covid shit makes Russiagate look like the 1919 Chicago Black Sox scandal.
I'm super confused. Because they didn't recommend everybody isolate in their homes that's evidence that they weren't following the science? What the hell are you talking about? Half the country lost their shit being politely asked to wear a mask, how do you think a policy of isolation was going to play out?
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Bob Dole 01:13 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
So wait, you're pretending to adopt what you think is a leftist position on healthcare to justify your unhinged take on Covid being a scam by for profit healthcare providers? Fascinating stuff.






I'm super confused. Because they didn't recommend everybody isolate in their homes that's evidence that they weren't following the science? What the hell are you talking about? Half the country lost their shit being politely asked to wear a mask, how do you think a policy of isolation was going to play out?
UNHINGED!!!
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Raiderhader 05:59 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
So wait, you're pretending to adopt what you think is a leftist position on healthcare to justify your unhinged take on Covid being a scam by for profit healthcare providers? Fascinating stuff.



I’m not pretending anything, I’m pointing out your side’s obvious self-contradiction on the matter.

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1I'm super confused. Because they didn't recommend everybody isolate in their homes that's evidence that they weren't following the science? What the hell are you talking about? Half the country lost their shit being politely asked to wear a mask, 2how do you think a policy of isolation was going to play out?
1. Yes, we know. And part of your confusion here stems from not understanding the difference between isolation and quarantine. Quarantine is the action you take to keep something out (no one is allowed in until they have shown they are not sick); isolation is the protocol you take when it’s already here (those who are sick stay home and everyone else goes on about their lives).

2. You’re memory must be complete shit, because people absolutely were “asked” (mandated) to stay home, wether they were sick, possibly exposed or NEITHER. It was kind of a big deal, people lost their businesses, their retirements, their dreams… all because a booming economy was going to see The Donald re-elected. And we couldn’t have that because orange man bad.
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Bugeater 06:23 AM 06-07-2021
Yeah...super confused...or just playing dumb...you motherfuckers would have sold your own mother's souls if that's what it would have taken to ensure The Donald wasn't reelected.
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Baby Lee 06:31 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Yeah...super confused...or just playing dumb...you motherfuckers would have sold your own mother's souls if that's what it would have taken to ensure The Donald wasn't reelected.
But they politely asked . . . :-) :-)
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lawrenceRaider 06:58 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Examples?

I can name plenty of Detoxing downplaying it in the hopes of it benefiting him.
There are still leftists living in fear and insisting that natural immunity doesn't last longer than 90 days, etc, etc, etc. See the broad predicting doom just before the precipitous drop in cases due to vaccinations.
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scho63 07:02 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
How many?
30,000-50,000
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lawrenceRaider 07:13 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by Raiderhader:

2. You’re memory must be complete shit, because people absolutely were “asked” (mandated) to stay home, wether they were sick, possibly exposed or NEITHER. It was kind of a big deal, people lost their businesses, their retirements, their dreams… all because a booming economy was going to see The Donald re-elected. And we couldn’t have that because orange man bad.
Had Tr ump been able to keep a coherent message on COVID, he'd have still easily won re-election. Instead, he rambling incoherently and was all over the place in his messaging. Pretty normal for him, but not what he needed to do to keep his job.
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MahomesMagic 07:16 AM 06-07-2021
How convenient.

Lead researcher for CDC's Vaccine Breakthrough Team has confirmed that fully-vaxed patients who are hospitalized & incidentally test positive for SARS-CoV-2 are NOT seen as COVID hospitalizations or deaths

This is a sharp contrast to the CDC’s stance during the pandemic�� pic.twitter.com/kyShnI9Fjx

— Emma Woodhouse �� (@EWoodhouse7) June 7, 2021

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Donger 07:28 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
How convenient.

That's not a contrast at all:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/cod...-reporting.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
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Donger 07:29 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by scho63:
30,000-50,000
And the fact that, globally, flu season basically didn't exist last year? And that we only had 2,000 cases, when we typically have tens of millions (and about 30,000 deaths)?
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Baby Lee 07:45 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Had Tr ump been able to keep a coherent message on COVID, he'd have still easily won re-election. Instead, he rambling incoherently and was all over the place in his messaging. Pretty normal for him, but not what he needed to do to keep his job.
We as a 'nation' were supposed to unite to fight.
Trump didn't have a perfect message, but he was optimistic and open-minded.
Some, out of fear, were terrified of optimism. They felt it unrealistic.
Some, for partisan purposes, resolved to counter any message and misconstrue what they could, which led to Trump's open-mindedness and optimism being caricatured as incoherent. Be honest, was he lacking coherence? or were you told by all antagonistic media that he was? And what business in HELL did media have being antagonistic in a pandemic?

I don't know if I'll ever forgive that portion of the populace who tried to finesse both imploring us to conform for their peace of mind and 'common purpose' while simultaneously seeking every angle for partisan gain, thereby contributing exponentially more to the agita and pain of the pandemic.

We're on the precipice of the biggest casualty of this WuFlu being the cohesion of the populace for good [convenient for the source of the whole mishegas, BTW]. And there's going to come a time when people have to reckon with whether blind hatred of one man was worth it.
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Donger 07:50 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
We as a 'nation' were supposed to unite to fight.
Detoxing didn't have a perfect message, but he was optimistic and open-minded.
Some, out of fear, were terrified of optimism. They felt it unrealistic.
Some, for partisan purposes, resolved to counter any message and misconstrue what they could, which led to Detoxing's open-mindedness and optimism being caricatured as incoherent. Be honest, was he lacking coherence? or were you told by all antagonistic media that he was? And what business in HELL did media have being antagonistic in a pandemic?

I don't know if I'll ever forgive that portion of the populace who tried to finesse both imploring us to conform for their peace of mind and 'common purpose' while simultaneously seeking every angle for partisan gain, thereby contributing exponentially more to the agita and pain of the pandemic.

We're on the precipice of the biggest casualty of this WuFlu being the cohesion of the populace for good [convenient for the source of the whole mishegas, BTW]. And there's going to come a time when people have to reckon with whether blind hatred of one man was worth it.
What a bunch of false shit. Trump downplayed it (i.e., lied about the threat). He also said stupid shit that he knew wasn't true like it'll soon be zero cases.

That wasn't the press' fault at all.
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Baby Lee 07:51 AM 06-07-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
What a bunch of false shit. Detoxing downplayed it (i.e., lied about the threat). He also said stupid shit that he knew wasn't true like it'll soon be zero cases.

That wasn't the press' fault at all.
Fuck off.
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