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banyon 03:02 PM 05-11-2021
28 Reported Dead In Gaza From Israeli Airstrikes; Gaza Rockets Kill 3 In Israel

May 11, 20212:13 PM ET
Becky Sullivan
BECKY SULLIVAN


An Israeli firefighter walks next to cars hit by a rocket fired from the Gaza Strip, in the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon on Tuesday.
Ariel Schalit/AP


https://www.npr.org/2021/05/11/99587...ll-2-in-israel


Israel warned that airstrikes on Gaza would continue over the coming days as at least 28 Palestinians and three Israelis were reported killed amid rising cross-border violence sparked by clashes in Jerusalem.

A confrontation on Friday between Israeli police and Palestinian demonstrators at the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in Jerusalem's Old City has escalated rapidly since the weekend, leaving Israelis and Palestinians alike bracing for more violence as the holy month of Ramadan comes to a close this week.

Over the last two days, Palestinian militants fired hundreds of rockets from Gaza toward Jerusalem and coastal Israeli cities, including Tel Aviv. Israel has responded with scores of airstrikes it says are targeting militants in Gaza. Israeli officials say they are preparing to expand their offensive.

Two Israelis were killed Tuesday when rockets struck two houses in the port city of Ashkelon. Another rocket hit an empty school that had been ordered closed due to the risk of strikes. A rocket barrage Tuesday night killed a third Israeli in the Tel Aviv suburb Holon.

Some rockets have been intercepted by the Israeli army's missile defense system, while others fell short and landed within Gaza.

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Early Tuesday morning, Israeli warplanes and drones conducted at least 130 airstrikes over Gaza. Officials with the Israel Defense Forces said they targeted operatives from Hamas and Islamic Jihad, killing 15, including the chief of Islamic Jihad's special rocket unit.

Health officials in Gaza said 28 people have been killed in the strikes, including at least 10 children. More than 150 Palestinians in Gaza have been injured, they said.

The border between Gaza and Israel has been closed to journalists due to the rocket fire.

Israel's army chief of staff has ordered the military to prepare to widen its operation against Gaza "with no time limit." At a press briefing Tuesday, Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz told reporters Israel plans to "deal a hard blow to Hamas" in the coming days, referring to the militant Palestinian group which governs Gaza.

The recent round of violence erupted after weeks of tension in Jerusalem, where Israeli police had routinely confronted Palestinian protesters, mostly around the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in the Old City. The mosque is located in an area known to Muslims as Haram al-Sharif, or the Noble Sanctuary, and to Jews as the Temple Mount. Anti-Arab Jewish gangs have contributed to the unrest, attacking groups of Palestinians.

Beginning Friday, Israeli police have used stun grenades, rubber-coated bullets and water cannons to disperse the growing crowds of demonstrators. The Palestinian Red Crescent emergency medical service says more than a thousand Palestinians have been injured since Friday, with hundreds hospitalized. Roughly a dozen Israeli police officers have been hurt.

The escalation in violence prompted international calls for calm and criticism from Israel's Arab neighbors.

Jordan's foreign minister Ayman Safadi was in Washington over the weekend, where he met with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Speaking to reporters ahead of their meeting, Blinken urged both sides to de-escalate.

"We're very focused on the situation in Israel, West Bank, Gaza, very deeply concerned about the rocket attacks that we're seeing now, that they need to stop, they need to stop immediately," Blinken said ahead of the meeting with Safadi.

U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan also met with Safadi during his visit to Washington, and spoke by phone with his Israeli counterpart to urge calm and denounce violence.

NPR's Daniel Estrin in Jerusalem contributed reporting.
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mr. tegu 01:11 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
She is nervous about terrorist attacks while we would be there. She's a female and worries about too much, you know how they are.

Yeah you definitely didn’t get my inference. Why as in why would you want to go to the Middle East? Other than religious reasons of course. Egypt I get but the rest? Yeah I’d pass too if I were her.
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Over Yonder 01:24 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Yeah you definitely didn’t get my inference. Why as in why would you want to go to the Middle East? Other than religious reasons of course. Egypt I get but the rest? Yeah I’d pass too if I were her.
I am a history nerd. This area has a crap ton of history. One of the attractions I think would be cool is Petra in Jordan. And like you mentioned, the religious sites. To walk where he walked and so forth.

The biggest downfall I have come up with is no American beer. At least that is what I am coming up with in my research. But like I have said here before, I suck at searching crap on the net. My computer has something in the security settings that won't let me do very much searching on the net.
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Marcellus 01:38 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Israel should not exist.
Oh really? Well OK then.

There is a really good podcast series called Fear And Loathing In The New Jerusalem which tells both sides of the story going back several hundred+ years and after listening to it, you can easily see both sides. Its not a simple issue in any way shape or form nor is it resolvable any time soon. :-)
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BDj23 01:40 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Israel should not exist.
Israel can exist, they can just exist without our tax dollars/military aid.
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Prison Bitch 02:59 PM 05-12-2021
American values are sacred to us all. We need to make sure we strongly encourage Israel to copy our value of designating the majority population as the greatest domestic security threat:



JUST IN: Biden officials testify that white supremacists are greatest domestic security threat https://t.co/trfSuHZexk pic.twitter.com/8wYN6BqW1f

— The Hill (@thehill) May 12, 2021

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banyon 03:03 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
American values are sacred to us all. We need to make sure we strongly encourage Israel to copy our value of designating the majority population as the greatest domestic security threat:



White supremacists are the majority of the population?
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Discuss Thrower 03:06 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
White supremacists are the majority of the population?
White "privilege" is the equivalent to original sin in Catholicism remedied only by the sacraments of kneeling at the altar of wokeness.

Anyone not kneeling at the altar is a white supremacist.

Ergo, most white Americans are white supremacists and most non-Arab or African Israelis are Zio-supremacists.
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Imon Yourside 03:07 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Why not? They have every right to exist. But I do believe the US should make their annual aid conditional on accepting American values:


1. Introduce “critical race theory” to Israeli students to educate them on their privilege and oppression of others.
2. Hang banners at embassies reading “Arab Lives Matter”
3. Reparations package to confront generations of racist economic inequities.


If they follow American values like those, they get the aid.
:-)
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Prison Bitch 03:14 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
White supremacists are the majority of the population?

Fair point.

Ok how about this: they should designate “Jewish supremacists” as their greatest internal threat. Which isn’t the majority of Israel. Agreed?
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ghak99 04:37 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Why not? They have every right to exist. But I do believe the US should make their annual aid conditional on accepting American values:


1. Introduce “critical race theory” to Israeli students to educate them on their privilege and oppression of others.
2. Hang banners at embassies reading “Arab Lives Matter”
3. Reparations package to confront generations of racist economic inequities.


If they follow American values like those, they get the aid.
:-)

This is one of your better posts.
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Raiderhader 05:55 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
Well, you seem to believe that illegals are driving down wages in those four areas you mentioned.

I think it's possible for construction, in less skilled trades.

Farming? The kind of farming done in the midwest is all pretty much mechanized, these days, isn't it?

The kind of agriculture done by illegals is generally the kind of work that Americans won't do. If you have to pay somebody $20 an hour to pick strawberries, strawberries will be prohibitively expensive.

That type of labor intensive agriculture would just move south of the border if there were no migrant farm workers to do the jobs that need to be done.

That makes no sense to me, as there are migrants willing to do the work at labor prices that make the industry viable.

Generally speaking, you don't have American citizens lining up to do the kind of work that illegals do. Which is why they hire illegals to do it.
So, are you or are you not in favor of raising the minimum wage to $15/hr?
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Just Passin' By 06:47 PM 05-12-2021
Biden Continues Rollback Of Trump Policies Like Peace In The Middle East



https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-co...he-middle-east
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Prison Bitch 07:33 PM 05-12-2021

As a strong America First conservative, it's my #1 priority right now to repeat the carefully-crafted PR of a foreign state justifying its aggressive military activity

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) May 13, 2021

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Buehler445 07:38 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Oh really? Well OK then.

There is a really good podcast series called Fear And Loathing In The New Jerusalem which tells both sides of the story going back several hundred+ years and after listening to it, you can easily see both sides. Its not a simple issue in any way shape or form nor is it resolvable any time soon. :-)
The Martyr Made podcast tells an objective history of the conflict. It's a really good listen.

I'll check out the Fear and Loathing podcast also.
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Marcellus 07:55 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
The Martyr Made podcast tells an objective history of the conflict. It's a really good listen.

I'll check out the Fear and Loathing podcast also.
That is the Martyr Made Podcast. Its the title of that series. Very compelling stuff.
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