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The Lounge>Frank Clark fucking sucks
RealSNR 02:33 PM 09-15-2019
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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notorious 07:25 PM 11-29-2020
He hasn't had a good year, so far.


Just you wait.
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GloryDayz 07:25 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
you're all going to be sucking his dick in the playoffs
I'm not so sure about that, but if you're right the rest of the players should let coach Spags know they're going to work that same strategery..
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alanm 07:27 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
June 1st him at that point. I don't ****ing care.

Ironically, the overpaid contract whipping boy on defense the past two seasons (Anthony Hitchens) had a pretty good game today.
Hitchens has played pretty decent all year.
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GloryDayz 07:29 PM 11-29-2020
If he starts being dominant in the playoffs I'm pretty sure I'll say, "It's about time, he owes us..."
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DaFace 07:30 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by notorious:
He hasn't had a good year, so far.


Just you wait.
If he gets a key play in to win a playoff game, all will be forgiven.
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htismaqe 07:31 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
If he is doing so great we wouldn't be blitzing so much. Seemed every damn play we were blitzing. Good thing Brady is 80-years old and about as mobile as a statue otherwise we'd probably got lit up.

D did good overall though but I don't think Clark did anything great this game.
Spags uses a ton of blitz packages regardless.

That's not to say the defensive line is getting it done but Spags doesn't blitz just because he feels like he has to. It's part of his scheme, regardless of the effectiveness of the line.
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alanm 07:33 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by ljmhawk:
him and jones have both been shit this year. do they even have 10 sacks combined?
Jones is constantly double teamed. I cut him a little slack. I didn't hear a peep about Wharton or Pennel today. Or Nnadi for that matter. And outside of Hitchens the Lb's were AWOL.
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OKchiefs 07:33 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Spags uses a ton of blitz packages regardless.

That's not to say the defensive line is getting it done but Spags doesn't blitz just because he feels like he has to. It's part of his scheme, regardless of the effectiveness of the line.
Those blitz packages and pressure worked a lot better when the Giants had Strahan, Umenyiora, and Tuck instead of Frank fucking Clark.
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htismaqe 07:34 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by alanm:
Jones is constantly double teamed. I cut him a little slack. I didn't hear a peep about Wharton or Pennel today. Or Nnadi for that matter. And outside of Hitchens the Lb's were AWOL.
One of the best pressures of the game was with Wharton, Danna, and Jones on the line. I think Okafor got his sack on that play.
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Coach 07:39 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Not even if they designate him a post June 1st cut?
Post June 1 2021 cut:
2021 Dead Cap: $24,950,000
2022 Dead Cap: $12,900,000
2021 Cap Savings: $850,000

So you're really gaining $850,000 for that, while taking a near $25 mil loss for 2021 and near $13 mil loss for 2022.

Not worth the cost in 2021.

Now post June 1 cut for 2022 tells a different story:
2022 Dead Cap: $6,450,000
2023 Dead Cap: $6,450,000
2022 Cap Savings: $19,850,000

This is very likely scenario.
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TomBarndtsTwin 07:59 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by Coach:
Post June 1 2021 cut:
2021 Dead Cap: $24,950,000
2022 Dead Cap: $12,900,000
2021 Cap Savings: $850,000

So you're really gaining $850,000 for that, while taking a near $25 mil loss for 2021 and near $13 mil loss for 2022.

Not worth the cost in 2021.

Now post June 1 cut for 2022 tells a different story:
2022 Dead Cap: $6,450,000
2023 Dead Cap: $6,450,000
2022 Cap Savings: $19,850,000

This is very likely scenario.
Shit.

Well, looks like were stuck with him thru all of 2021 at a minimum.

Like I said before, he better ball out in the playoffs. If he does that, all will be forgiven. However, if he continues to be non-effective, hes likely to start getting the Berry/Houston treatment from the fanbase.
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OKchiefs 08:04 PM 11-29-2020
Pretty clear DE has to be priority #1 in the draft next year. Hopefully a rookie DE can step in and help provide a pass rush, because it's apparently too much to expect top 5 contracts at DT & DE to contribute at a level relative to their salary. Chris Jones for the most part has done so, but he's the only one doing anything on the DL and can be gameplanned around with nobody else doing anything.
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htismaqe 08:05 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Shit.

Well, looks like were stuck with him thru all of 2021 at a minimum.

Like I said before, he better ball out in the playoffs. If he does that, all will be forgiven. However, if he continues to be non-effective, hes likely to start getting the Berry/Houston treatment from the fanbase.
And rightfully so.

The only reason he's getting a pass from fans right now is because he exploded in the playoffs last year.

It's literally the only reason people are cutting him slack because they hope he can do it again.

If he doesn't show up in the playoffs, he's really not contributing, let alone contributing at a level commensurate with his contract.
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htismaqe 08:06 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Pretty clear DE has to be priority #1 in the draft next year. Hopefully a rookie DE can step in and help provide a pass rush, because it's apparently too much to expect top 5 contracts at DT & DE to contribute at a level relative to their salary. Chris Jones for the most part has done so, but he's the only one doing anything on the DL and can be gameplanned around with nobody else doing anything.
They need a steady presence opposite Clark.

That doesn't excuse Clark's play by any means but the other DE spot is a turnstile.
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notorious 08:07 PM 11-29-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
If he doesn't show up in the playoffs, he's really not contributing, let alone contributing at a level commensurate with his contract.
If he doesn't show up in the playoffs this board will be commentruating all over the place.
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