Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Seems fairly unlikely at this point.
Curve is too loopy and the fastball doesn't have enough movement or life for him to have the iffy command of it that he does.
He's still awfully young but I've seen zero growth from him the last couple years apart from one decent relief outing where he seemed to be attacking and getting better depth on his breaker.
Yes, right now I see back end of the rotation at best. I hope I'm wrong, but he does need to develop at least one consistent put away pitch. He seems like, at least at the major league level he pitches too fine...and then walks more guys than you want from someone that doesn't have overpowering stuff.
His WHIP is 1.73 (albeit in a relatively small sample size). For his stuff he needs to be down around 1.2 to be viable as starter you can rely on. [Reply]
The curve evidently looks much better in the minors.
Tells me it could be nerves causing him to guide the ball instead of really ripping it. It would explain the fastball not having any life to speak of as well.
Best shot at having the #2 upside we hoped for. [Reply]
You all are as bad as a bunch of damn women. Cry because we didn't get X player because we would not give up what was needed. Cry because we gave up too much to get X player. It is ridiculous sometimes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup: You all are as bad as a bunch of damn women. Cry because we didn't get X player because we would not give up what was needed. Cry because we gave up too much to get X player. It is ridiculous sometimes.
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
It is in all the other threads on this site and those some people posts in here. :-)
The Royals fans have a reason to bitch though. Zack Greinke said he'd like to return so they lowballed him, gave that money to a very mediocre Jordan Lyles, then the rest of it to the cooked Aroldis Chapman. Anyone with a pulse would bitch about that.
The Cardinals though? It's an embarrassment of riches for that team. But they're gonna do stuff like force Yuan Jepez to platoon and limit Nolan Gorman's opportunities so as not to expose him, and these are scared moves from a scared organization. We both know the age-old saying: "scared money don't win no money", or alternatively, "scared money don't win none". [Reply]
Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch:
The Royals fans have a reason to bitch though. Zack Greinke said he'd like to return so they lowballed him, gave that money to a very mediocre Jordan Lyles, then the rest of it to the cooked Aroldis Chapman. Anyone with a pulse would bitch about that.
The Cardinals though? It's an embarrassment of riches for that team. But they're gonna do stuff like force Yuan Jepez to platoon and limit Nolan Gorman's opportunities so as not to expose him, and these are scared moves from a scared organization. We both know the age-old saying: "scared money don't win no money", or alternatively, "scared money don't win none".
I wasn't referring to the Royals. I was pointing out that it is the posters on the board as a general group that act that way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
Chip Caray is taking Drunk Dan's spot. That's a definite upgrade.
Yeah - Chip's solid.
Surprised he left Atlanta after taking his dad's chair and spending 20 years there, but hey - Bill's gotta spend all that ballpark village money on something because it damn sure wasn't the roster. [Reply]
In the Harry Caray documentary on MLB Network, young Chip was playing Little League baseball in the St. Louis area. Harry was present at Chip's Little League games one day and didn't realize Chip was his grandson. Someone had to inform him, "Harry, this is your grandson." Chip was hurt. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
In the Harry Caray documentary on MLB Network, young Chip was playing Little League baseball in the St. Louis area. Harry was present at Chip's Little League games one day and didn't realize Chip was his grandson. Someone had to inform him, "Harry, this is your grandson." Chip was hurt.
Yeah, I never got the impression that ol' Harry was much of a family man... [Reply]
