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Nzoner's Game Room>NFLPA initiates investigation into concussion protocols after Tua injury
tk13 03:37 PM 09-25-2022
This didn't take long.

NFLPA has told the NFL that it wants to initiate a review of the concussion protocols in light of Tua Tagovailoa’s return to today’s game in Miami, per source.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 25, 2022


#Tua will be ruled out for @MiamiDolphins vs @BuffaloBills.
Outward signs of head injury means ruled out even if clears the concussion protocol. pic.twitter.com/Lj2AKO5D1A

— David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc (@ProFootballDoc) September 25, 2022

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SupDock 09:23 PM 10-01-2022
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Is this the current one or the new one that comes week 5?
It’s the current one, but instability is getting added to the “no go” section on the right I believe. It’s already there, but there is an asterisk describing that it needs to be determined to be from neurological causes.

In the Tua case, they said it was from a “back injury”.

These exceptions are going away it seems.

It still needs to start with an impact to the head.
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crayzkirk 09:29 PM 10-01-2022
It's pretty well known that the current Dolphins coaching staff doesn't want Tua. Now that he has had two concussions within five days, the recovery time is months instead of weeks and perhaps never with a brain stem injury.

Seems very convenient... We trust experts to give us additional information, that doesn't mean we blindly trust them when we see something that appears to conflict with that information.
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Rainbarrel 06:46 AM 10-02-2022
Concussion challenges by opposing teams could be like lightning delays
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GloryDayz 07:48 AM 10-02-2022
Give them a standing-eight-count and if the player wants to play, let them play. If the coach wants to pull them because he's confident that the backup will provide a better chance to win, or is concerned for the possible longer term loss of a player, then the coach can pull them.
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penguinz 08:32 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
It's pretty well known that the current Dolphins coaching staff doesn't want Tua. Now that he has had two concussions within five days, the recovery time is months instead of weeks and perhaps never with a brain stem injury.

Seems very convenient... We trust experts to give us additional information, that doesn't mean we blindly trust them when we see something that appears to conflict with that information.
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :-)
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rabblerouser 09:02 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by penguinz:
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :-)
They say that the NFL is a ruthless buisness :-)

:-)
:-)
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Garcia Bronco 09:11 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by penguinz:
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :-)
You know this exact story happened on Days of Our Lives.
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rabblerouser 09:16 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
You know this exact story happened on Days of Our Lives.
Been telling y'all "the NFL is scripted", and Jason Whitlock says that "players and coches are characters", and...well, characters DO get written out. :-)


:-)
:-)
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crayzkirk 10:31 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by penguinz:
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :-)
I wouldn't say tried to kill him; it seems that they really didn't think about the person over the player. The coach stumbling over the words and making statements that he would never put a player in danger before he was even asked rings hollow to me. Why go into CYA mode immediately?

Actions always speak louder than words...
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rabblerouser 10:53 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
I wouldn't say tried to kill him; it seems that they really didn't think about the person over the player. The coach stumbling over the words and making statements that he would never put a player in danger before he was even asked rings hollow to me. Why go into CYA mode immediately?

Actions always speak louder than words...
The Dolphins' agenda is the NFL's agenda.

What QB gives the Dolphins the best chance to win?

Based on Thursday, it looks to be Bridgewater. The Dolphins looked more efficient AND Bridgewater has a better arm.

Who sells more tickets/jerseys, but most importantly, who is the better CHARACTER that will generate more casual viewers?

It's Tua.

And that's why he was rushed back so quickly. Had nothing to do with the Dolphins trying to win games.
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FloridaMan88 11:18 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
It's pretty well known that the current Dolphins coaching staff doesn't want Tua. Now that he has had two concussions within five days, the recovery time is months instead of weeks and perhaps never with a brain stem injury.

Seems very convenient... We trust experts to give us additional information, that doesn't mean we blindly trust them when we see something that appears to conflict with that information.
Flores didn’t want Tua, but McDaniel doesn’t want Tua?
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BWillie 11:21 AM 10-02-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
So apparently gross motor instability does not require entry into the concussion protocol if the team/independent doctors determine that the instability was orthopedic.

Convenient.
It's not really convenient at all. If a guy hurts his ankle, knee or hip and is stumbling. All issues meant to not be immediately disqualified from a game. This just happened to be a grey area. It doesn't mean it was a conspiracy. It doesn't mean the NFL sucks or the Dolphins tried to do any time wrong. Sometimes shit fucking happens.
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BryanBusby 12:04 AM 10-03-2022

Somebody said NFL concussion protocol woulda let JFK back in the parade ����������

— kb (@karinasophia12) October 2, 2022

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htismaqe 06:06 PM 10-03-2022
So this is interesting.

Bucs coach said Cam Brate came to the sideline complaining about his shoulder after being hit in the head. They routed him to the team docs, NOT the independent neurologist. Why? Because “you can’t see the neurologist if you didn’t hurt your head”.

In this case, he played more snaps before somebody finally realized maybe he should be examined, which happened at halftime. He never came back in the game.
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htismaqe 06:08 PM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
It's not really convenient at all. If a guy hurts his ankle, knee or hip and is stumbling. All issues meant to not be immediately disqualified from a game. This just happened to be a grey area. It doesn't mean it was a conspiracy. It doesn't mean the NFL sucks or the Dolphins tried to do any time wrong. Sometimes shit fucking happens.
If you go to the doctor and deliberately or inadvertently misrepresent your symptoms and the doctor knows you did it, then the doctor has a duty to do what’s best for you not just do what you tell him to do.
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