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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Couch-Potato 10:32 AM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Sweet....it's even worse now.
lol :-)

Not like I'm advocating x4 injured high-upside players, a pot-head to pair with a guy named "Smoke", and an accused sexual harasser....oh, wait?
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The Franchise 10:41 AM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
#29 + #132 + 2023 2nd (Edited) = WR J Williams
#30 = WR Pickens
#50 + #121 = DE Ojabo
#62 DT Leal or DE Enagbare
#93 DE Williams or DT Mathis
#103 WR Ross
233. RB Ealy
243. S Monday
251. Best Available CB
259. Best Available RT

2022: Hardman, JuJu, MVS, Williams, Pickens Ross -> 2023: Williams, Pickens, MVS, Ross
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
lol :-)
Let's go over why I think it's a horrible mock draft.

1. The trade up for Williams. I'm assuming that with that compensation that you're getting to the Saints pick at 16? I'm not a fan of trading up for a WR so I'm going to just leave it at that.

2. You traded up for Williams and then took Pickens at 30. So our first two picks are WRs when we have nothing at DE and Baker is your 3rd CB. Not great Bob.

3. Ojabo in the 2nd after trading up. Two of your first three picks are not guaranteed to be available Week 1.

4. 62 and 93 are fine for both DT and DE. I don't have an issue there.

5. You just spent two first round picks on WR and you draft another one in the 3rd round? And it's Justyn Ross at that? The dude who completely fucked his pre draft numbers? Probably the dumbest pick of the entire draft.

A RB before a CB? You waited until the 7th round to take a CB who more than likely doesn't even sniff the top 4. Our pass defense going into the season is trash because you drafted 3 WRs and a DE who won't play in 2022.
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Couch-Potato 10:46 AM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Let's go over why I think it's a horrible mock draft.

1. The trade up for Williams. I'm assuming that with that compensation that you're getting to the Saints pick at 16? I'm not a fan of trading up for a WR so I'm going to just leave it at that.

2. You traded up for Williams and then took Pickens at 30. So our first two picks are WRs when we have nothing at DE and Baker is your 3rd CB. Not great Bob.

3. Ojabo in the 2nd after trading up. Two of your first three picks are not guaranteed to be available Week 1.

4. 62 and 93 are fine for both DT and DE. I don't have an issue there.

5. You just spent two first round picks on WR and you draft another one in the 3rd round? And it's Justyn Ross at that? The dude who completely ****ed his pre draft numbers? Probably the dumbest pick of the entire draft.

A RB before a CB? You waited until the 7th round to take a CB who more than likely doesn't even sniff the top 4. Our pass defense going into the season is trash because you drafted 3 WRs and a DE who won't play in 2022.
Lol I'm gambling with my job as a GM. Let's go!
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duncan_idaho 11:17 AM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Lol I'm gambling with my job as a GM. Let's go!
There's gambling... and then there's spending two of your first 3 picks on currently injured players, and adding still more risk with a guy who has some character questions.

1 of those 3 is possibly defendable. All 3 is just reckless to a point of impossibility.
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Toad 12:44 PM 04-21-2022
KC
29.

Treylon Burks
WR Arkansas
KC
50.

Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota
KC
62.

Jahan Dotson
WR Penn State
KC
94.

Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi
KC
103.

Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis
KC
121.

Damone Clark
LB LSU
KC
137.

Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State
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2023 CAR 1st
2023 CAR 2nd
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Detoxing 01:23 PM 04-21-2022
Aight, fuggit, my first crack at it. Only doing 3 rounds because fuck that shit.

Round 1, Pick 29; Andrew Booth Jr. (One of my favorites of the draft, this is the star of my Mock. Kaiir Elam could work here too assuming Booth is gone)

Round 1, Pick 30; Boye Mafe (lazy pick here by me, but the Chiefs need a rusher and i expect Karlaftis to be gone)

Round 2, Pick 50; George Pickens (1st round talent imo, I struggle if he's my favorite or 2nd favorite WR in the draft)

Round 2, Pick 62; Jalyn Armour Davis (Chiefs get a 2nd big time physical attribute corner, giving them two outstanding boundry corner rookie prospects to develop)

Round 3, Pick 94; David Ojabo (possibly wishful thinking here but that injury creates uncertainty and he'll have to redshirt his rookie season. I think he slides into the 3rd where these types of guys are generally seen taken)

Round 3, Pick 103; Max Mitchel (Chiefs add some competition at swing tackle with a player that has the potential to outright take the RT job)
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Nightfyre 01:50 PM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by Toad:
KC
29.

Treylon Burks
WR Arkansas
KC
50.

Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota
KC
62.

Jahan Dotson
WR Penn State
KC
94.

Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi
KC
103.

Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis
KC
121.

Damone Clark
LB LSU
KC
137.

Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State
trade icon

2023 CAR 1st
2023 CAR 2nd
I love that you stick the screws to a desperate CAR front office.
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Toad 02:55 PM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
I love that you stick the screws to a desperate CAR front office.
Itís a dirty job, but someone has to do it :-)
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CupidStunt 03:33 PM 04-21-2022
When are people going to stop mocking Pickens at 50. He ain't sniffing it.

There might be 5 WR gone by 20. This is going to be the most prolonged WR run ever. Especially with the wild money being asked by so many 3rd year WR now. Every team is gonna want to load up on cheap guys.
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Detoxing 03:35 PM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by CupidStunt:
When are people going to stop mocking Pickens at 50. He ain't sniffing it.

.
People say similar shit every year, yet every year guys slide.
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mkp785 06:02 PM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by CupidStunt:
When are people going to stop mocking Pickens at 50. He ain't sniffing it.

There might be 5 WR gone by 20. This is going to be the most prolonged WR run ever. Especially with the wild money being asked by so many 3rd year WR now. Every team is gonna want to load up on cheap guys.
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
People say similar shit every year, yet every year guys slide.
He's rumored to have character concerns I saw. Chiefs don't care about that stuff as we have a strong locker room, but other teams might. That, plus his injury means 50 is possible I think (pray/hope).
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The Franchise 06:20 PM 04-21-2022
MJD has us going Karlaftis at 30 and trading 29 for Deebo Samuel.
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Tribal Warfare 06:33 PM 04-21-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
MJD has us going Karlaftis at 30 and trading 29 for Deebo Samuel.

I would just be semi-disappointed Samuel cool but lightweight JJ Watt would be a big meh.
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Chris Meck 05:52 AM 04-22-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
MJD has us going Karlaftis at 30 and trading 29 for Deebo Samuel.
There's no way we wouldn't pay Hill but would sign up to pay Samuel, who's been healthy and productive for one season.

Karlaftis isn't my favorite DE pick, but he is a pretty safe bet. I'd rather gamble a bit on one of the athletic freaks like Ebiketie or Mafe with one of the firsts and then double down with a Cam Thomas at #62. At least one of them should hit and if both do, you're set at edge for a few years.

But that's just me.
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In58men 06:19 AM 04-22-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Sweet....it's even worse now.
:-)
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