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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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In58men 11:33 AM 04-19-2022
What’s a good site to incorporate trades without having to spend money on a premium membership lol….
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CaliforniaChief 11:35 AM 04-19-2022
Originally Posted by Hoover:
I just don't see Olave going in the 2nd, Jones at 66 is late too.
I'm not sure I do either. I just made the best (I think) of the board in front of me.
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Detoxing 11:46 AM 04-19-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Ryan Tracy is the reason I won't listen to Locked On Chiefs anymore.

He's goddamn awful.

Give me 20 minutes of prep and a microphone and I'd do a better job. I think he almost has to be the producer and calls his name otherwise I can't imagine he'd have that gig.

He's flat-ass bad at it.
Ah fuck, Ryan Tracey is the RGR Chiefs guy? I've never listened to Locked on Chiefs (ok maybe once a few weeks ago), but all you had to say was "RGR Chiefs Guy" and im out.
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CatfishBob2 12:16 PM 04-19-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Ah ****, Ryan Tracey is the RGR Chiefs guy? I've never listened to Locked on Chiefs (ok maybe once a few weeks ago), but all you had to say was "RGR Chiefs Guy" and im out.
Hook me up with a better Chiefs podcast. This guy seems like he knows his stuff. He just has some terrible scouting takes
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Detoxing 01:05 PM 04-19-2022
Originally Posted by CatfishBob2:
Hook me up with a better Chiefs podcast. This guy seems like he knows his stuff. He just has some terrible scouting takes
Wish i knew of one too.
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BossChief 01:10 PM 04-19-2022
Using TDN site

29. George Karlaftis EDGE - 4th highest pressure rate since 2019. “The White Hali”. Day 1 starter with his effort and consistently gets to the QB, maybe better coaching will help him finish plays better like Hali got better at as he developed from a guy that was constantly a league leader in pressures snd later developed into a constant 12-15 sack guy. For staying out at 29, this is a realistic dream pick.

30. David Ojabo EDGE - drafted as an impact pass rush game wrecker ceiling with OLB with pass rush skill set OLB floor. If he is cck able to retain his explosiveness, we might go from one of the worst pass rushes to a top 10 one that can develop into an elite pass rush unit. One of his best qualities is his versatility to play end or OLB, like Von Miller…so he also allows the ability to have him, Karlaftis AND Hall on the field at the same time to destroy opposing edge blocks.


50. George Pickens WR - best hands in draft, physical and brings energy. Really good blocker, too. Runs good routes and gets consistent separation. Great teammate snd fought back from a serious injury to help his team. Mahomes would trust Pickens quickly because he runs the right route, is smart enough to understand route concepts snd on the fly adjustments while staying running to get open off schedule. He would be an early contributor and high character leader that will likely go higher in the draft than 50. When Mecole and Juju need new deals next year, Veach wouldn’t feel like it was mandatory to bring both back if the price gets too high for his liking.


62. Logan Hall EDGE - wasn’t expecting him to be available at the end of the second. Legit first round kind of talent in most drafts. With the cost and impact of edge guys in todays nfl, I couldn’t pass on him here. If Ojabo retains his explosiveness, hall and Karlaftis can be base ends while Ojabo operates similarly to how Von Miller did early in his career as a 4-3 OLB that affects games by blitzing the edge while Hall and Karlaftis force OLs to play everyone man up. This would allow Spags to use a lot of the looks he loves to disguise his blitzes on a whole other level. Jesus the thought of this front 7 with these 3 is straight up terrifying for opposing OCs.


94. Nick Cross S - speed and intelligence make Cross special. 4.34 combine speed on the backend to making one of the better safety groups in the league with Thornhill, Reid, Cross and Bush nearly complete. Stay tuned.


103. Josh Williams - Fayetteville State CB - This is my high risk swing at a CB from Div 2 that has elite traits that we can afford to groom for the future that may surprise and steal a starting spot right away.


121. Zyon McCollum CB - another elite measurables guy. 6’3” 200 and ran a low 4.3 40. I think he’s a perfect replacement for Ward and will develop into a similar player.


135. Pierre Strong Jr RB - straight up home run hitter with juice. Hot, Nasty speed that hits the corner and is gone. Has pass catching skills that weren’t constantly used in college but would be utilized in our offense. I love the idea of this kid working with Eric Bienemy.


233. Erik Ezukanma WR - with us only drafting Pickens so far and needing another developmental prospect, I went with Ezukanma because I see a few places with him ranked in the mid rounds and he seems to fit what we are looking for in a WR that can develop into a contributer.


243. Christopher Hinton IDL, 7th round DT from a good program. Sleeper pick. Didn’t get the press Ojabo and Hutch get, but contributed to the dominance of that DL.


251. Smoke Monday S - I’m going to be honest. I drafted him because of his name…bye Armani Watts, Hello Smoke.
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Hoover 09:37 PM 04-19-2022
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BossChief 11:28 PM 04-19-2022
29.

George Karlaftis
EDGE,
30.

Boye Mafe
EDGE,
50.

George Pickens
WR,
62.

John Metchie III
WR,
94.

Sam Williams
EDGE,
103.

JoJo Domann
LB,
121.

Zyon McCollum
CB,
135.

Pierre Strong Jr.
RB,
233.

Christopher Hinton
IDL,
243.

Noah Elliss
IDL,
251.

Mykael Wright
CB,

Mahomes, Henne, kid

CEH, Strong, Jones, Gore

Juju, MVS, Hardman, Pickens, Metchie, Powell

Kelce, Fortson, Bell, Gray

Brown, Niang, Wanogho
Thuney, Allegreti
Humphrey, Reiter
Smith, Williams
Wylie, Christian

Clark, Williams, Danna
Jones, Saunders, Wharton
Nnadi, Ellis, Hinton
Karlaftis, Mafe, Kaindoh

WGJ, Lee
Bolton,
Jojo, Carter

Snead, Baker, Wright
Fenton, Zyon, Barcoo, Bootle

Thornhill, Bush, Key
Reid, Anderson
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kccrow 08:28 AM 04-20-2022
Originally Posted by BossChief:
29.

George Karlaftis
EDGE,
30.

Boye Mafe
EDGE,
50.

George Pickens
WR,
62.

John Metchie III
WR,
94.

Sam Williams
EDGE,
103.

JoJo Domann
LB,
121.

Zyon McCollum
CB,
135.

Pierre Strong Jr.
RB,
233.

Christopher Hinton
IDL,
243.

Noah Elliss
IDL,
251.

Mykael Wright
CB,

Mahomes, Henne, kid

CEH, Strong, Jones, Gore

Juju, MVS, Hardman, Pickens, Metchie, Powell

Kelce, Fortson, Bell, Gray

Brown, Niang, Wanogho
Thuney, Allegreti
Humphrey, Reiter
Smith, Williams
Wylie, Christian

Clark, Williams, Danna
Jones, Saunders, Wharton
Nnadi, Ellis, Hinton
Karlaftis, Mafe, Kaindoh

WGJ, Lee
Bolton,
Jojo, Carter

Snead, Baker, Wright
Fenton, Zyon, Barcoo, Bootle

Thornhill, Bush, Key
Reid, Anderson
Just about every single one of the "who's who" in draft prospect prognostication has Karlaftis in the top 15 as their mocks get close to final prior to the draft. I'm pretty comfortable in thinking he's not going to be there anywhere near 29.

I do like the rest of it even if I don't think Pickens is there at 50 either, but he "could" be so I'm not going to nitpick that.
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duncan_idaho 09:00 AM 04-20-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Just about every single one of the "who's who" in draft prospect prognostication has Karlaftis in the top 15 as their mocks get close to final prior to the draft. I'm pretty comfortable in thinking he's not going to be there anywhere near 29.

I do like the rest of it even if I don't think Pickens is there at 50 either, but he "could" be so I'm not going to nitpick that.
Yeah, probably going to have to go up to 13 or 14 to get Karlaftis, and that might not be high enough. Would KC do that? Just depends on how they rank him compared to Enagbare and Cam Thomas and Logan Hall, 3 guys who fall into a similar skillset/category as Karlaftis.

A 13 and 37 for 29 and 30 and a little more swap with Houston makes sense and would put you in position to get Karlaftis and still be able to take a swing at a WR in the second tier (fringe 1st/early 2nd).

So... when looking at a trade up, what helps the Chiefs more and what does this brain trust likely prefer?

Karlaftis + George Pickens

or

Jameson Williams + Cameron Thomas

The first one is a pair that will play right away, be more productive in 2022 (with Pickens a full year additional removed from his ACL tear), and that still has pretty high upside.

It's probably a coin flip for me, if I'm convinced Thomas' neck issues are in the past and won't present future problems.
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JPH83 11:04 AM 04-20-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Just about every single one of the "who's who" in draft prospect prognostication has Karlaftis in the top 15 as their mocks get close to final prior to the draft. I'm pretty comfortable in thinking he's not going to be there anywhere near 29.

I do like the rest of it even if I don't think Pickens is there at 50 either, but he "could" be so I'm not going to nitpick that.
Most of the simulators seem ridiculous to me. I honestly think the PFF one is the one that's hardest to get a stack of picks that are frequently mocked in the first 2 rounds. Obviously not everyone can go in the first but some are really letting you load up.
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KChiefs1 01:25 PM 04-20-2022
29.

Boye Mafe
EDGE,

30.

Kaiir Elam
CB,

50.

Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE,

62.

George Pickens
WR,

94.

Kerby Joseph
S,

103.

James Cook
RB,


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Nightfyre 01:52 PM 04-20-2022
PFF updated their big board, and some of the changes are eyebrow raising.
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Couch-Potato 03:57 PM 04-20-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Wish i knew of one too.
I like RGR Football on youtube!
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The Franchise 05:49 PM 04-20-2022
29. George Karlaftis, EDGE, Purdue
30. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan
50. Travis Jones, IDL, UConn
62. Nicholas Petit-Frere, OT, Ohio State
94. Sam Williams, EDGE, Ole Miss
103. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati
121. Pierre Strong Jr., RB, South Dakota State
135. Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State
233. Erik Ezukanma, WR, Texas Tech
243. Eric Johnson, IDL, Missouri State
251. Gregory Junior, CB, Ouachita Baptist
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