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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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kcclone 12:45 PM 08-03-2022
The networks are doing a great job of promoting fighting between the P12 and B12, while they themselves burn conferences to the ground…

“Look here, not there”
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Eleazar 12:49 PM 08-03-2022
It seems like the trouble is that the remaining piece of the pie is not big enough to sustain a third major conference. The existence of the Pac12 and the Big12 each precludes the other from leveling with the SEC and B1G, even before the PAC's two biggest name schools and their biggest TV market left.
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lawrenceRaider 01:08 PM 08-03-2022
The real question is when do the networks trash both the SEC and the BIG and create an independent conference with only the real contenders from both those leagues.
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Eleazar 01:13 PM 08-03-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
The real question is when do the networks trash both the SEC and the BIG and create an independent conference with only the real contenders from both those leagues.
Yes, everyone is clearly waiting with bated breath for that to happen.
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lawrenceRaider 01:17 PM 08-03-2022
Originally Posted by Razaele:
Yes, everyone is clearly waiting with bated breath for that to happen.
Not paid attention to how corporate mergers work? Lots of fat to get cut from both the B1G and SEC.
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Eleazar 01:39 PM 08-03-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Not paid attention to how corporate mergers work? Lots of fat to get cut from both the B1G and SEC.
Make sure you let us know when the SEC and the B1G are going to merge. We don't want to miss it.
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Spicy McHaggis 02:24 PM 08-03-2022
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff holds a degree in journalism from Boston University. He told me on Friday that he is frustrated with the Big 12’s tactics.

“It’s incredibly destructive, but that’s why they do it,” he said. “When I was in journalism school we were taught you had to source things from two reliable sources and you can’t run with it until. Now, we’ve got folks in the national media reporting stuff that is on burner Twitter accounts. It’s unfortunate. It’s the world we live in. I don’t have thin skin. I’m OK with this stuff, but it does destabilize people.”

Kliavkoff said that several Pac-12 universities have shared communications they’ve received from the Big 12 and other conferences.

“If they hear something or if someone from a different conference is approaching them, they forward those messages,” he said. “Those are fun to read. I’ve read every single one that has been sent to our conference over the last three weeks. It’s amazing how brazen those other conferences are.”
Things Kliavkoff is mad at:
1. Journalists (Other than the Pac-12 water carriers)
2. Twitter
3. The Big 12

Things Kliavkoff is not mad at:
1. The B1G

Smacks of desperation. I'd still put my bet on the Pac 12 surviving in some form, but it won't be because of this putz
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Prison Bitch 02:36 PM 08-03-2022
Yeah he’s mad at the league who didn’t steal his prize schools :-)
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RustShack 04:43 PM 08-03-2022
Dodd on realignment

Spoiler!

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KChiefs1 10:16 AM 08-05-2022
Canzano:
Spoiler!


Canzano: Pac-12 AD says remaining conference members have no time for "noise"

ADs say they're committed.
Spoiler!

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RustShack 06:21 PM 08-05-2022
They are committed until they aren’t. AD’s don’t make the decision anyways. USC and UCLA were committed. Texas and OU were committed. They all say they are up until the news breaks.
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RustShack 06:28 PM 08-05-2022
I saw one bowl game scenario that makes so much sense and would save most bowl games, but obviously it won’t happen.

Play the bowl games before the playoffs. Add a little bit of a March madness feel to football. You could still expand the playoffs, but maybe just to 6 or 8 instead. Adds another data point against strong schools from other conferences. Obviously the top 4-8? Probably wouldn’t play each other, but it would still be a tough game with added chance of upsets and maybe helps a G5 or non “P2” show their worth and potentially shake up the rankings heading into the playoffs.
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Bearcat 06:36 PM 08-05-2022
Originally Posted by RustShack:
They are committed until they aren’t. AD’s don’t make the decision anyways. USC and UCLA were committed. Texas and OU were committed. They all say they are up until the news breaks.
Yeah, I remember years ago when I paid close attention to all the mental masturbation of sports analysts.

These days it's not much more than people creating drama over tweets.
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KChiefs1 09:51 AM 08-06-2022
Canzano:
Spoiler!



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Prison Bitch 10:30 AM 08-06-2022
Cocks selling tix at Costco for their red hot SEC! matchups


Interesting. Have not seen this before.

Gamecocks football tickets at Costco in West Ashley. pic.twitter.com/EfMIKs3RQr

— Scott Eisberg (@SEisbergWCIV) August 3, 2022

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