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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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lawrenceRaider 04:31 AM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
Well, I guess I didn't really explain well enough. It's not like most of them looked at data and came to a stupid conclusion.

Their 'sources' of information basically says that data or news story is fake. So I would say calling them deluded would be more accurate than calling most of them dumb.

Always exceptions, of course.

Maybe I'm being pedantic, but I don't think most people are intentionally doing stupid things to jeopardize their health. So I think it's worth keeping in mind what the real drivers are. Although that quickly becomes a DC topic. Which is why I kept my previous comment brief.
More like cult/sheep behavior. They just believe what they are told without question.

For the most part, people are not intellectually curious. A huge percentage just believe what their favorite news source tells them.

ETA: not just "right" wing types are antivaxx. Plenty of leftist are as well. Especially minorities who have seen bad things from gov experiments. Granted the vast majority haven't seen anything like that in their lifetimes.
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MahomesMagic 09:01 AM 09-18-2021

Researchers in Israel reported that a third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine can enhance protection in adults older than 60 for at least 12 days — a result that is unsurprising, experts said, and does not indicate long-term benefit. https://t.co/OKF8OSY1Cr

— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 15, 2021

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loochy 09:08 AM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Lol @ 12 days

Boosters every 2 weeks for everyone!
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MahomesMagic 09:12 AM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by loochy:
Lol @ 12 days

Boosters every 2 weeks for everyone!
Maybe a constant IV Covid vaccine drip could be considered?
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Pitt Gorilla 09:52 AM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:




It really is weird phenomenon. Experimental treatments never seem to scare anyone, just vaccines that have been tested much more thoroughly. I guess when you're already sick it's a different story.
Literally nobody would suggest that antivaxxers are intellectually consistent.
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Otter 12:49 PM 09-18-2021
The us vs them attitude isn't helping anyone.

FFS just go about your life and stop with the fear porn.
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Discuss Thrower 01:00 PM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Maybe a constant IV Covid vaccine drip could be considered?
Like this perhaps?


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Rausch 01:12 PM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by Otter:
The us vs them attitude isn't helping anyone.

FFS just go about your life and stop with the fear porn.
I don't understand people anymore. Your health is the most important thing you have. Even people I disagree with or don't even like I hope have good health. I wouldn't wish sickness on anyone.

Eventually we will all be sick. We will all eventually lose this battle. Death is inevitable. The only point to life is to enjoy as much of it as you can before it's over.

I wouldn't want medical care denied to anyone. I would hope as long as it's a treatment you want you should be able to take it. If you want to be Tommy Morrison and eat flowers and rub rocks on yourself that's up to you. As long as you are given competent medical advice by your doctor and you know the consequences and implications - that's your call.

In fact the more often woo-woo's try oddball shit the more likely we are to learn something new. It's unethical to experiment on people but if you want to experiment with yourself? At least someone could learn from it...
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Bearcat 01:23 PM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by Rausch:
I don't understand people anymore. Your health is the most important thing you have. Even people I disagree with or don't even like I hope have good health. I wouldn't wish sickness on anyone.

Eventually we will all be sick. We will all eventually lose this battle. Death is inevitable. The only point to life is to enjoy as much of it as you can before it's over.

I wouldn't want medical care denied to anyone. I would hope as long as it's a treatment you want you should be able to take it. If you want to be Tommy Morrison and eat flowers and rub rocks on yourself that's up to you. As long as you are given competent medical advice by your doctor and you know the consequences and implications - that's your call.

In fact the more often woo-woo's try oddball shit the more likely we are to learn something new. It's unethical to experiment on people but if you want to experiment with yourself? At least someone could learn from it...
It's just like so many other things in all of this.

If my neighbor wants to be an idiot and hoard toilet paper, be an idiot and hoard toilet paper... well, until people are driving all around town just to find one roll.

If my neighbor doesn't want to get vaccinated, I don't really care... well, until I would have to drive to another hospital for care and have to wear a mask while traveling 18 months after all of this started and concerts are still being canceled, etc, etc.

If my neighbor wants to take an anti-parasitic because he caught a virus, lulz you do you.... well, until there's a shortage of the medication for its intended use.
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suzzer99 01:26 PM 09-18-2021

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dirk digler 01:26 PM 09-18-2021
My ex who is a nurse posted on Facebook today her and her husband had to be admitted last night to St. Lukes. Quit her job because she didn't want to get vaccinated now is close to being on a vent with 82% oxygen level. Some people never learn.

Can't fix or help stupid.
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Otter 01:38 PM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
My ex who is a nurse posted on Facebook today her and her husband had to be admitted last night to St. Lukes. Quit her job because she didn't want to get vaccinated now is close to being on a vent with 82% oxygen level. Some people never learn.

Can't fix or help stupid.
Do you think wagging you're finger in someone's face and playing holier than thou is going to fix the situation.

You know, the scuzzer method?

All that does is widen the divide.
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Rausch 01:39 PM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
My ex who is a nurse posted on Facebook today her and her husband had to be admitted last night to St. Lukes. Quit her job because she didn't want to get vaccinated now is close to being on a vent with 82% oxygen level. Some people never learn.

Can't fix or help stupid.
All health is case specific. We just had a thread on here by someone who was allergic to types of meat. MEAT.

You don't force that single person to eat meat because it's super healthy for everyone else. In that specific case you need specific care. What is great for 99% of people is not correct 100% of the time.

We all know this.

We all also need to realize this means small percentages. 50% of people don't have a condition 1% of people get. No, they don't. People need to realize that while a small percentage could have serious side effects that is a small percentage. Know if you have one of those health conditions. Don't act contrarian just for the sake of it.
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Otter 01:50 PM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
A free society.
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Bearcat 01:54 PM 09-18-2021
Originally Posted by Rausch:
All health is case specific. We just had a thread on here by someone who was allergic to types of meat. MEAT.

You don't force that single person to eat meat because it's super healthy for everyone else. In that specific case you need specific care. What is great for 99% of people is not correct 100% of the time.

We all know this.

We all also need to realize this means small percentages. 50% of people don't have a condition 1% of people get. No, they don't. People need to realize that while a small percentage could have serious side effects that is a small percentage. Know if you have one of those health conditions. Don't act contrarian just for the sake of it.
Alpha-gal syndrome is literally a 1% problem... 1-3% to be exact.

Serious issues from the vaccines including the 7000 deaths out of 380 million shots are a 0.0002% problem, or one in 38,000.

It would be like saying someone who was in a serious car accident should now be equally afraid of flying on commercial airlines (and of course, there are idiots who are more afraid of flying than driving long stretches of highway at 70mph).
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