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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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duncan_idaho 11:18 PM 04-16-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
29.

George Karlaftis
EDGE
30.

Boye Mafe
EDGE
50.

DeMarvin Leal
IDL
62.

Jalen Tolbert
WR
94.

Cade Otton
TE
103.

Zyon McCollum
CB
121.

Velus Jones Jr.
WR
135.

JT Woods
S

Loved how this one turned out.
Pretty ideal.
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Titty Meat 01:31 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Pretty ideal.
That was worse than the mock posted you claimed you didn't like.
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dtrain 02:01 AM 04-17-2022
Fanspeak
Your Team: Kansas City Chiefs
Team Picks
29: R1 P29 EDGE Jermaine Johnson - Florida State
30: R1 P30 DL Devonte Wyatt - Georgia
50: R2 P18 EDGE Boye Mafe - Minnesota
62: R2 P30 LB Christian Harris - Alabama
94: R3 P30 WR George Pickens - Georgia
103: R3 P39 S Nick Cross - Maryland
121: R4 P16 CB Cam Taylor-Britt - Nebraska
135: R4 P30 CB Akayleb Evans - Missouri
233: R7 P12 OT Vederian Lowe - Illinois
243: R7 P22 RB Pierre Strong Jr. - South Dakota State
251: R7 P30 LB Darrian Beavers - Cincinnati
259: R7 P38 CB Kalon Barnes - Baylor
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kccrow 02:25 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Not taking an edge until the 103rd pick would be a catastrophic failure IMO. I like Williams but I don't like him enough to be the lone stab. Double-dipping at DT with two early picks would be a bit interesting.

One thing about Wyatt... if what Walter has to say on his site is true, this kid is going to drop like a rock. If it isn't true, I really just don't see him being there at 29. I think KC would have to move up a bit for him.

Passing on Karlaftis (he has going at 33) to take Wyatt and Dotson would be terrible. I compare Karlaftis physically to Bud Dupree and Trey Hendrickson. I'd take either of those guys in a heartbeat. I just think Karlaftis has the ability and drive to be a player.

I don't mind Dotson where he is if they take Karlaftis over Wyatt at 29 (I don't think Karlaftis is there anyhow).

Woolen is very meh to me. He has KC passing on Skyy Moore, George Pickens, Travis Jones, and Jaquan Brisker thereafter? No.
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Couch-Potato 03:56 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by dtrain:
Fanspeak
Your Team: Kansas City Chiefs
Team Picks
29: R1 P29 EDGE Jermaine Johnson - Florida State
30: R1 P30 DL Devonte Wyatt - Georgia
50: R2 P18 EDGE Boye Mafe - Minnesota
62: R2 P30 LB Christian Harris - Alabama
94: R3 P30 WR George Pickens - Georgia
103: R3 P39 S Nick Cross - Maryland
121: R4 P16 CB Cam Taylor-Britt - Nebraska
135: R4 P30 CB Akayleb Evans - Missouri
233: R7 P12 OT Vederian Lowe - Illinois
243: R7 P22 RB Pierre Strong Jr. - South Dakota State
251: R7 P30 LB Darrian Beavers - Cincinnati
259: R7 P38 CB Kalon Barnes - Baylor
This would be incredible.
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Chargem 04:36 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
This would be incredible.
That draft board is crazy, for those players to fall to those spots
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raybec 4 05:47 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Not taking an edge until the 103rd pick would be a catastrophic failure IMO. I like Williams but I don't like him enough to be the lone stab. Double-dipping at DT with two early picks would be a bit interesting.

One thing about Wyatt... if what Walter has to say on his site is true, this kid is going to drop like a rock. If it isn't true, I really just don't see him being there at 29. I think KC would have to move up a bit for him.

Passing on Karlaftis (he has going at 33) to take Wyatt and Dotson would be terrible. I compare Karlaftis physically to Bud Dupree and Trey Hendrickson. I'd take either of those guys in a heartbeat. I just think Karlaftis has the ability and drive to be a player.

I don't mind Dotson where he is if they take Karlaftis over Wyatt at 29 (I don't think Karlaftis is there anyhow).

Woolen is very meh to me. He has KC passing on Skyy Moore, George Pickens, Travis Jones, and Jaquan Brisker thereafter? No.
Walter has always been less than reliable but it is verified that he has at least one domestic violence incident. If there really are three others that didn't get charged that's definitely an issue.
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duncan_idaho 06:06 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
That was worse than the mock posted you claimed you didn't like.

Thatís like, your opinion, man.

But I like that CBS mock even less when hearing what he had the Chiefs passing on to take Wyatt and Woolen.

Taking Wyatt over Karlaftis would be ridiculous. Taking Woolen over the guys that were available would also be ridiculous.
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Chargem 07:36 AM 04-17-2022
I know we hate trade up for Williams mocks, but...
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staylor26 07:58 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
That was worse than the mock posted you claimed you didn't like.
Youíre in full on troll mode today huh?
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louie aguiar 08:56 AM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Barf
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Chris Meck 09:18 AM 04-17-2022
I've been running mocks from nearly every machine there is. Some players are all over the place, but this should be fairly realistic.

KC
29.
Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma-as a rookie, Winfrey's an interior pass rusher. Paired with Jones on 2nd or 3rd and long, it's big trouble for opposing offenses. in '23, you can move Jones for another haul of picks.

KC
30.
Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE Penn State-just a touch smaller than Clark but man, you can't argue with his elite athleticism. In '22, he's a pass rush specialist; in '23 he takes Clark's spot entirely.
KC
50.

Alec Pierce
WR Cincinnati-has been called a 'bigger, faster, Jordy Nelson.' Sounds perfect. I'll take it.

KC
62.
John Metchie III
WR Alabama-probably not ready to go in September, but the upside for this speedster is too hard to ignore. This is a play for late in '22, and for '23 and beyond-we have one WR under contract in '23.

KC
94.
Isaiah Thomas
EDGE Oklahoma-a prototype LDE with pass rush upside.

KC
103.
Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama-a very physical CB with good press skills and athleticism.

KC
121.
Darrian Beavers
LB Cincinnati-a freaky athlete that's also described as very, very smart. No more Niemann bullshit. This kid completes your LB corps with all plus players/athletes.

KC
135.
Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State-the steal of the draft? Could be. Fast as lightning, full complement of athletcism, Veach prototype size. This could be the next KC stud RB.


I feel like I've addressed our biggest weaknesses on defensive line for now and for the future as well as allowing for possible trade flexibility with Jones. I've completed our LB corps with a smart, freaky athlete. Added a corner with plus upside. Added speed AND size to our WR corps for now and the future with two guys that may well be #1wr and #2 WR as soon as '23. And Pierre Strong is just a tremendous prospect in my eyes to be your all around RBOTF.

I think KC would be in really good shape in '22 as well as the future with this haul.
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duncan_idaho 10:06 AM 04-17-2022
I'm a degenerate.

Here's a Sunrise Mock Draft to celebrate Zombie Jesus Day. (On TDN. I ponied up for a month of premium to be able to trade).

1.21 - George Karlaftis
1.30 - Daxton Hill
2.37 - George Pickens
2.55 - Sam Williams
3.94 - Greg Dulcich
3.103 - Abe Lucas
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BossChief 12:21 PM 04-17-2022
I just missed on Sam Williams, but no way Iím passing on NPF at 94. Williams went at 99. Kyler McMichael late 7th not in pic.
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BossChief 12:32 PM 04-17-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I've been running mocks from nearly every machine there is. Some players are all over the place, but this should be fairly realistic.

KC
29.
Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma-as a rookie, Winfrey's an interior pass rusher. Paired with Jones on 2nd or 3rd and long, it's big trouble for opposing offenses. in '23, you can move Jones for another haul of picks.

KC
30.
Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE Penn State-just a touch smaller than Clark but man, you can't argue with his elite athleticism. In '22, he's a pass rush specialist; in '23 he takes Clark's spot entirely.
KC
50.

Alec Pierce
WR Cincinnati-has been called a 'bigger, faster, Jordy Nelson.' Sounds perfect. I'll take it.

KC
62.
John Metchie III
WR Alabama-probably not ready to go in September, but the upside for this speedster is too hard to ignore. This is a play for late in '22, and for '23 and beyond-we have one WR under contract in '23.

KC
94.
Isaiah Thomas
EDGE Oklahoma-a prototype LDE with pass rush upside.

KC
103.
Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama-a very physical CB with good press skills and athleticism.

KC
121.
Darrian Beavers
LB Cincinnati-a freaky athlete that's also described as very, very smart. No more Niemann bullshit. This kid completes your LB corps with all plus players/athletes.

KC
135.
Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State-the steal of the draft? Could be. Fast as lightning, full complement of athletcism, Veach prototype size. This could be the next KC stud RB.


I feel like I've addressed our biggest weaknesses on defensive line for now and for the future as well as allowing for possible trade flexibility with Jones. I've completed our LB corps with a smart, freaky athlete. Added a corner with plus upside. Added speed AND size to our WR corps for now and the future with two guys that may well be #1wr and #2 WR as soon as '23. And Pierre Strong is just a tremendous prospect in my eyes to be your all around RBOTF.

I think KC would be in really good shape in '22 as well as the future with this haul.
I agree on Strong. The thought that that kid is going to be available as late as he is in these mocks doesn’t add up after the combine.

If he’s there in the third, I think it’s a home run pick.

I could see him slipping into the second if a team falls in love with him, but anything third or later and this kids going to be a star with amazing value in resources. Especially if he goes to an offense like ours.
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