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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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FlaChief58 10:23 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
Drew Stanton.
How many games has he won in the past 4 years?
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milkman 10:24 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Flachief58:
How many games has he won in the past 4 years?
Irrelevant.
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RunKC 10:25 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
Drew Stanton.
No fucking way. Like Alex or not, a huge reason we were winning games was because of Alex's legs.

Our OL was that awful
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FlaChief58 10:33 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
Irrelevant.
No it's not
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milkman 10:37 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
No ****ing way. Like Alex or not, a huge reason we were winning games was because of Alex's legs.

Our OL was that awful
No, it really wasn't.

It wasn't good, but Alex Smith leaves the pocket when there is no pressure, and he throws the ball short of the sticks.

Stanton would have moved the chains in the air, rather than with his legs.
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Bearcat 10:38 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Flachief58:
Ok, so I ask again, who was available that could have won us as many games as smith?

Hint: No one. Smith was the best option at the time to stop the bleeding
That's been the goal for decades... get back to mediocrity, then when it all goes to hell, repeat.
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WhiteWhale 10:38 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
Drew Stanton.
No.

Just... no.

Stanton isn't even on the level of Matt Cassel. He's barely a viable back up.
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milkman 10:38 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Flachief58:
No it's not
It is.

Stanton has been a backup to Carson Palmer.
Alex Smith is a backup quality QB.
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milkman 10:39 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
No.

Just... no.

Stanton isn't even on the level of Matt Cassel
Disagree.

He is a poor fit for Arian's system.
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RunKC 10:42 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
No, it really wasn't.

It wasn't good, but Alex Smith leaves the pocket when there is no pressure, and he throws the ball short of the sticks.

Stanton would have moved the chains in the air, rather than with his legs.
Yeah his 14 TD/19 INT passing was really going to lead us to wins through the air.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 10:42 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
No ****ing way. Like Alex or not, a huge reason we were winning games was because of Alex's legs.

Our OL was that awful
We were 12-4 last year and Alex didn't run. try again.
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Discuss Thrower 10:44 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Yeah his 14 TD/19 INT passing was really going to lead us to wins through the air.
If this is going to be your take, point out the games where Smith being better than Andy Dalton or just about any "average" QB lead directly to a win.
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Hammock Parties 10:45 AM 09-03-2017
Reid could have coached up Stanton into a far more productive passer.

Or Matt Moore for that matter.
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milkman 10:45 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Yeah his 14 TD/19 INT passing was really going to lead us to wins through the air.
As I said to White Whale, poor fit for Arian's system.

He is essentially a dink and dunker, just like Smith.
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Coogs 10:47 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This is where I am. I think he needs more work because as good as he was, he made some really head scratching plays at certain points which all rookies do.

The 3rd and 18 was probably the one they will point to. He just needs to understand that he doesn't need to go for the big play every single time. It's okay to get a FG every once and awhile. But he'll get it down.

Let Alex get the Chiefs in position to make the playoffs as they usually do and start Pat in late November with 4/6 remaining games at home. That's my ideal plan.
That 3rd and 18, while a hidden interception, also hit his WR in the hands for what would have been a first down if he could have held on. It was tipped, but without the tip, it could have been a first down.
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