Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
I'm still thinking it's mild because it's mostly reinfections and breakthroughs. We shall see though.
My high school friend ended up on ECMO, haven't heard much in the past few days. Another high school friends parents aren't doing well with it. His dad was my pee wee football coach all the way thru elementary. 60ish, went on a vent I believe Wednesday. Mom is still at home but oxygen is way low.
It's just rampant back in my little home town. Sad deal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
This I'd where I diverge from folks making the case that "who cares about the unvaccinated, you are protecting yourself". These people are ****ing over our healthcare workers, and it's disheartening to see my nursing Facebook friends posting about the terrible conditions.
Good friend of mine recently quit her nursing job for the same reason. Said she was just so tired of people sick and dying on a ventilator arguing with her that they didn't actually have covid. I can't imagine. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'm still thinking it's mild because it's mostly reinfections and breakthroughs. We shall see though.
My high school friend ended up on ECMO, haven't heard much in the past few days. Another high school friends parents aren't doing well with it. His dad was my pee wee football coach all the way thru elementary. 60ish, went on a vent I believe Wednesday. Mom is still at home but oxygen is way low.
It's just rampant back in my little home town. Sad deal.
Originally Posted by Fish:
Good friend of mine recently quit her nursing job for the same reason. Said she was just so tired of people sick and dying on a ventilator arguing with her that they didn't actually have covid. I can't imagine.
I don't have the temperament for that kind of thing. I'd be too tempted to slip some sedatives in with the other drugs just to shut them up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Good friend of mine recently quit her nursing job for the same reason. Said she was just so tired of people sick and dying on a ventilator arguing with her that they didn't actually have covid. I can't imagine.
Don't blame them. When you have to deal with a quasi-mass casualty situation every shift for 12 straight hours, we are talking PTSD for some of these workers. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Good friend of mine recently quit her nursing job for the same reason. Said she was just so tired of people sick and dying on a ventilator arguing with her that they didn't actually have covid. I can't imagine.
I presume if they don't have covid then they don't want covid treatments, right? Problem solved (in a few days). [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
After I got COVID last week, my wife got a couple of those in-home tests, and she took one on Monday. Her's came back negative.
Very Important Side Note:
My wife was double vaxxed and had her booster over a month ago. She has been around me non-stop, unmasked, and has had zero symptoms. She had to go to a meeting and wanted to make sure she wasn't infected. So, she took another in home test yesterday and it came back negative again. My point is this - get vaxxed, and go get the booster. My wife appears to be proof positive that the booster is keeping her safe from me :-)
Originally Posted by :
"Since January, we've had about 289 deaths; 75% are unvaccinated people," Dover said. "And the very few (vaccinated people) who passed away all were more than 6 months out from their shot. So we've not had a single person who has had a booster shot die from Covid."
Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan:
We're getting ready to have a couple family get-togethers and COVID has been circling in the family. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge with at-home rapid result tests (not the kind you mail in)? Even if they're just mostly accurate it seems like it could reduce risk a little??
They are about 80% accurate from what I have been told by our safety guy. We have had many people use them as an initial diagnosis and every time they have come up positive the person has had a confirmed positive with PCR afterwards.
I don't know of any false negatives off hand. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
They are about 80% accurate from what I have been told by our safety guy. We have had many people use them as an initial diagnosis and every time they have come up positive the person has had a confirmed positive with PCR afterwards.
Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan:
We're getting ready to have a couple family get-togethers and COVID has been circling in the family. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge with at-home rapid result tests (not the kind you mail in)? Even if they're just mostly accurate it seems like it could reduce risk a little??
my wife bought a lot of them from amazon last summer. They are easy to use and they've put us at ease a few times when we've had colds. We used one to detect my son's positive, so that let him get into (and consequently out of) the 10 day quarantine faster. It's also a hell of a lot cheaper and more convenient than going to the doctor, and you're not out and about spreading it if you ARE sick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan:
We're getting ready to have a couple family get-togethers and COVID has been circling in the family. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge with at-home rapid result tests (not the kind you mail in)? Even if they're just mostly accurate it seems like it could reduce risk a little??
Welp, Aunt Judy, you tested positive so you go sit in the car while we enjoy opening presents and gorging on a feast. Uncle Joe will join you in about 9 hours to drive back home. Happy holidays? [Reply]
Originally Posted by loochy:
Welp, Aunt Judy, you tested positive so you go sit in the car while we enjoy opening presents and gorging on a feast. Uncle Joe will join you in about 9 hours to drive back home. Happy holidays?
Ha! I was actually thinking they could take them the day before but I kinda like your idea. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
I'm good. Thanks. Today is a really good day. My aches and pains are mostly gone, and my coughing is pretty limited. My sense of taste and smell left me, which is a truly bizarre sensation. Hoping that comes back soon.
Glad to hear it. Definitely odd to lose that taste and smell. I guess it's a good time to eat healthier maybe until you can actually taste. Hopefully it's back quick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Good friend of mine recently quit her nursing job for the same reason. Said she was just so tired of people sick and dying on a ventilator arguing with her that they didn't actually have covid. I can't imagine.
There are a lot of nurses leaving the profession. But not just because of patients and families. Because of the way they are treated by management. [Reply]
