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Fantasy/CasinoPlanet>Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs
Rain Man 12:15 AM 03-22-2009
The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Spoiler!

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

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Rain Man 10:14 AM 02-03-2016
Originally Posted by chiefscafan:
Damn my QB situation got bad and no real way to solve it unless one of the three steps it up
It's funny. Once you get a hole in a place, it's really hard to fill. I've been trying to get myself a pass-rushing outside linebacker for six years and can't do it. Admittedly, I haven't invested high picks, but you'd think over time one of them would work out.
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The Franchise 12:28 PM 02-04-2016
So where can I start in this?

I was in this back in 2009...but stopped playing after a year. Do I just start fresh?
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kccrow 12:40 PM 02-04-2016
I'd love to get in on this as well, looks fun. Can't believe I've never read this thread...
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Rain Man 12:54 PM 02-04-2016
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
So where can I start in this?

I was in this back in 2009...but stopped playing after a year. Do I just start fresh?
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I'd love to get in on this as well, looks fun. Can't believe I've never read this thread...
Cool. If you want to start, you can start with the current Chiefs roster. You'll get the same draft picks that they do, and lose or gain free agents as they do. The only difference is who you draft. We have a few rules about trade-downs and trade-ups that you can look up, or I can share them on draft day.

We did a few special things to rosters when we started this several years ago, but at this point I'll just wave my hands at them. Start monitoring the thread as draft day approaches, and I'll post up the available picks and any trades to accept or reject. Then in training camp you'll finalize a 53-man roster and go from there.

I'm glad you're interested. The game starts slow because your roster doesn't diverge quickly, but after several years it's really cool to see how the team changes.
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DJ's left nut 03:33 PM 02-04-2016
I may have to try this, but I'm worried that I'd pull a Rainman and make my team demonstrably worse than Scott Pioli did.

I mean, congrats on the Russell Wilson thing and all, but Hankerson and Wright instead of Houston and Poe....that's not so good.
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Rain Man 03:42 PM 02-04-2016
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I may have to try this, but I'm worried that I'd pull a Rainman and make my team demonstrably worse than Scott Pioli did.

I mean, congrats on the Russell Wilson thing and all, but Hankerson and Wright instead of Houston and Poe....that's not so good.
Hey, Wright would be a strong starter on the Chiefs, and ... Russell Wilson, so I win.

Bowers is probably my biggest regret. I shuffled my draft around to get him, thinking he would be a cheap star and that didn't work out at all. CJ Spiller is a bummer, too. I thought he would blow the place up. He's still around and playing, but just as a bit player.

Feel free to join in. It's fun to look back once you get a few years under your belt.
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DJ's left nut 03:53 PM 02-04-2016
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Hey, Wright would be a strong starter on the Chiefs, and ... Russell Wilson, so I win.

Bowers is probably my biggest regret. I shuffled my draft around to get him, thinking he would be a cheap star and that didn't work out at all. CJ Spiller is a bummer, too. I thought he would blow the place up. He's still around and playing, but just as a bit player.

Feel free to join in. It's fun to look back once you get a few years under your belt.
I'll have to try to remember it in a month or so.

I'm surprised by how few 'pre-draft' trade downs I've seen going backwards in the draft. Seems like most of you are content simply eating the discount and moving down.
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The Franchise 04:26 PM 02-04-2016
So do we just start with the Chiefs roster as of the draft? How do we handle FAs?
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Rain Man 06:15 PM 02-04-2016
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
So do we just start with the Chiefs roster as of the draft? How do we handle FAs?
You start with the current Chiefs roster, but you won't get any of their draft picks later unless you also pick them. If a Chief is cut, you can choose to keep him, but if he leaves as a free agent he's gone. You don't lose free agents from other teams when they leave, which is really just laziness on our part since it's a lot of work.

You'll get any free agents who arrive for the Chiefs.
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Rain Man 06:17 PM 02-04-2016
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'll have to try to remember it in a month or so.

I'm surprised by how few 'pre-draft' trade downs I've seen going backwards in the draft. Seems like most of you are content simply eating the discount and moving down.
For me, I like the security of moving down exactly where I want to be. I don't want to take the risk of trading down and missing the guy I'm targeting.

In real life, I hate trading down. But in this game it's worth it sometimes even if you have to give the discount. At least, that's the case in my opinion.
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chiefscafan 09:12 PM 02-04-2016
Yeah I'm still bummed about missing the draft year of Russell Wilson he would of been my pick in the third round I loved him in that draft. Got to busy that year to participate and was forced to take the Chiefs draft. Oh well no use in crying now I have to hope a QB I like falls probably . Thought geno was gonna be a lot better than he turned out.
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The Franchise 11:21 AM 02-05-2016
So for now what's the roster size? Is it 90 like during the normal NFL offseason? We just have to get down to 53 before the start of the regular season.
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Rain Man 12:37 PM 02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
So for now what's the roster size? Is it 90 like during the normal NFL offseason? We just have to get down to 53 before the start of the regular season.
Yeah, in your case you'll start with the entire KC roster after all free agency moves. You'll then add your own draft (but not the Chiefs' actual draft). Finally, you'll drop to 53 when the NFL does their final cuts. We have no IR and no practice squad - just 53.
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Rain Man 11:05 AM 04-11-2016
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Draft needs going into 2016

High priority:
Starting LG
Starting C
Pass-rushing OLB

Moderate priority:
Eventual starting HB
Starting DE (again!)
Starting LT (again!)
Starting SS
QB depth

Low priority:
Starting FB
CB depth
Developmental ILB
Nose tackle depth
#3 TE

Non-priority:
WR, K, P, LS, FS
I thought Devito was coming back. His retirement really shuffles my draft priorities.
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wazu 10:18 PM 04-11-2016
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I thought Devito was coming back. His retirement really shuffles my draft priorities.
Yeah, he screwed us all.
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